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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
Indeed. Had the author said "I made this joke campaign so that people could laugh. My friend played it and said it was funny.", most of us would have probably just yawned at the thing. But when he specifically tried to make the Ultimate Campaign, you just gotta lol.
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14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
Indeed. Had the author said "I made this joke campaign so that people could laugh. My friend played it and said it was funny.", most of us would have probably just yawned at the thing. But when he specifically tried to make the Ultimate Campaign, you just gotta lol.

So you mean he tried too hard and the campaign was JAD standard even though it wasn't supposed to be so?
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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
Haven't you played it yet?

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
Indeed. Had the author said "I made this joke campaign so that people could laugh. My friend played it and said it was funny.", most of us would have probably just yawned at the thing. But when he specifically tried to make the Ultimate Campaign, you just gotta lol.

So you mean he tried too hard and the campaign was JAD standard even though it wasn't supposed to be so?
Sort of. The dude tried to make an epic campaign by including bombing missions, intercepting missions, "unique" recon missions, Saths on our side, a Colossus on the enemy side and *drumroll*... a "collapse node". And you're on the wrong side of it.

Eh, just play the damn thing.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
The best mission out of that whole mess was still the "blow up 18 stationary Shivan cruisers/corvettes/destroyers by yourself, just because" one.  There was something intensely visceral about wasting dual Helioses to take out a Cain. :D

 

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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
SGWP2 was extremely enjoyable.
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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
As far as making the Aten more effective when it was supposed to be, it was fairly dangerous to fighters before shields. I would have improved it by making the two turret models anti-fighter turrets and adding a few more plasma bursts around the hull. It had more than twice the armor of the Fenris in FS1, yet it still fell to the Fenris 1 on 1.

I would say they were meant to be deployed in hunter killer packs of two or three, but whenever we saw them in FS1 they were alone.

 

Offline eliex

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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
If the Aten was designed to be anti-fighter or a hindrance to the enemy, I'd much prefer to use Satis as gunboats.
They are faster, smaller and harder to hit with anti-cap beams. Even outfitted with one AAA can make a Satis dangerous, especially in groups.

 

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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
The Aten's dorsal protection could be improved by moving the button turrets to the sloped surfaces, giving them a better forward firing solution.  I would however, like to see someone make an FS2 upgraded Aten, with a few more turrets (as many have suggested) and putting a forward beam turret in the nose, with a weak slash or something.  Maybe after the loss of so many ships to the Shivans, GTVA had to pull some old ships out of mothballs and give them upgrades.
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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
I know Satis freighters seem like better warships, but maybe they just don't have the capability to support a military crew for long durations or don't have the advanced weapons control systems that might be found on a cruiser. They were designed as freighters, after all. Heavily armored, yes; subspace drives? No.

How effective can a ship be as a warship if it doesn't have subspace drives?

 

Offline eliex

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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
My mistake. I should have said using the core design of the Satis. Then just modify the unnecessary parts of the Satis to optimal fighting capability. Instead of having space for cargo, perhaps the things that you listed might be added. :)

But these gunboats aren't meant to be used in solo attacks. More like a firing support. 

 

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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
A Satis variant with a subspace drive and some extra electronics would be a great thing. It's still sad that the Aten is one of the Vasudan's  "better" warships.

 

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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
The Aten in the first mission of The Procyon Insurgency looked pretty formidable. :nervous:
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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
It still gets pwned by asteroids if you don't look after it :doubt:
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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
It still gets pwned by asteroids if you don't look after it :doubt:
The Aten manages just fine on its own.  It's those damned Bes freighters that'll get you...

 

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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
Yeah...I saw one of them drop from 75% to 50% once, and I went, "How did that happen?"
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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
I know Satis freighters seem like better warships, but maybe they just don't have the capability to support a military crew for long durations or don't have the advanced weapons control systems that might be found on a cruiser. They were designed as freighters, after all. Heavily armored, yes; subspace drives? No.
Most Satises in FS1 had fully functional subspace drives. I suspect Iotas 1 and 2 in the first mission of FS2 were atmospheric planetary versions (which can go into space, but not warp).

 
Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
SGWP2 beats em all :doubt: so  :p

I think of all the FS1 craft, the Aten has the most pleasing shape.  :yes:

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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
"You shot me in the bollocks, Tim"
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Re: GVC Aten - How would you fix it?
Ha...how'd I get quoted in the Wiki entry for it? :lol: