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Offline Bob-san

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Well this is going to be my first fighter I guess. I've done a few other designs so far, but this is the first I'll ask for community input for. Basically, this is a fighter for the NTF. It's meant to be a medium fighter--as a sort of NTF replacement for the Myrmidon (as it seems they have a limited supply). I need direction on this--it'll be a first real model, and as you will see below, it's in a rough condition. I worked on the 2D top-down design so far, and then converted that design into surfaces and extruded to the rough shape this ship will take.



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Looks like a good Terran design...if a bit blocky even by Terran standards in its rough state. :p

Hmm...what mythology hasn't been pillaged to high heaven and back?  Maybe something Norse?

Edit:  Ooh...don't know if we have a Gungnir yet, but that rough design looks rather spearhead-like.

 

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Definitely make a cockpit for it. I think it also may need some missile exit areas, as the only real areas at the moment are those squarey blocks at the front, and it would seem a bit silly to have everything coming out of there...but keep it flat - it's sort of like a Ulysses and Loki combined.

You could call it a Ukeloki... :nervous:
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Looks like a good Terran design...if a bit blocky even by Terran standards in its rough state. :p

Hmm...what mythology hasn't been pillaged to high heaven and back?  Maybe something Norse?

Edit:  Ooh...don't know if we have a Gungnir yet, but that rough design looks rather spearhead-like.
It needs a good bit of rotating and stretching to get the shape down-pat. My next portion be to draw a 2D "front" to this design: and then extrude portions of it to smooth various features. It won't be anywhere near as blocky, and of course there are thousands of greebles to consider. Pretty self-explanatory where everything goes, and the tri-engine setup in the back I am really considering minimizing to have the left and right "spikes" shortened and made to look useful (perhaps figure the dimensions of a countermeasure). I will probably employ a basic very-inner and very-outer setup for primaries--if not having 2 primary spots directly below the cockpit. The alternative is to mount primaries on top of the big blocky fronts: I can greeble a "Universal Mount and Armor" or similar onto there without too much trouble. I was also considering the weapons setup--maybe a smaller range of secondaries but a larger energy for primaries. The Myrmidon has 3 banks--perhaps cut out a small bank and call ammo even, or cut some stock in the largest bank. In addition to that, either 4 or 5 total gunpoints: I am considering 5, having two on the outer portions and then three mounted around the cockpit: one on each side and one directly below. It'd be different, but the narrow angles workable.

Definitely make a cockpit for it. I think it also may need some missile exit areas, as the only real areas at the moment are those squarey blocks at the front, and it would seem a bit silly to have everything coming out of there...but keep it flat - it's sort of like a Ulysses and Loki combined.

You could call it a Ukeloki... :nervous:
I may keep it flat, or at least mostly flat. I have plenty of details to add. The good things are I'm very comfortable with AutoCAD's 3D functions in comparison to TrueSpace or Blender. I'll do that 2D front blueprint and even out the design: it'll have some more "modern" feels to it--less block, but definitely more on the sharp edges for ease of manufacturing. A secondary idea to this is it can be stacked similarly to a Ulysses--when I start removing portions, it'll take on a similar winged appearance, but will incorporate a GTVA sitting cockpit and have standardized "weapons pods". I will greeble the hell out of this: I have the tools,  so my only problem is remembering this after having used this program last about 6 months ago.

I am going to re-do the extrusions: I need to even it all out for the front-view 2D, so I can subtract portions as necessary. I won't be doing much in the way of free-form modeling on this: the NTF is in dire need of a fast and easy-to-build fighter. For the purposes overall, this could be used as an NTF or Sol fighter, or even a cheap GTVA fighter. It will be weaker, but not by much.
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Offline Rick James

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Name suggestion: perhaps the NTF Emancipator?

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Not very mythological, is it? :P

 

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Screw mythology. I don't get why every freaking ship class in Freespace has to reference some portion of Greek mythology or the mythology of some other dead civilization.

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Screw mythology. I don't get why every freaking ship class in Freespace has to reference some portion of Greek mythology or the mythology of some other dead civilization.
Well IMO mythological names suit better. When the US and British navies stopped using mythological badass names, they went naming stuff USS George Bush Sr. and ****.

 

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I've decided on another approach for this: I'm going to do an orthographic projection of this, so to fix mistakes I prior made. I'll see about designing a cockpit for it--I've never done such a thing before, and I never have used (or wanted to use) cockpits in-game. How do they work on widescreen setups now? Are they still in proportion? If I was designing one right now, I'd align the HUD to displays. The other thing is I think that we'd be using HUDs projected on-visor or similar... no reason to have the HUD bars present like on a modern-day fighter.
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Screw mythology. I don't get why every freaking ship class in Freespace has to reference some portion of Greek mythology or the mythology of some other dead civilization.
Because every ship class from the two games did, so if you want to stay in-universe, you'd better do the same. :p

 

Offline Bob-san

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I'm thinking of doing an entirely-module design... and then accredit work to a dozen shipyards and designers across NTF space. Anyways--I'll work on the ship a bit more today. As I Said, I'm going to redraw this in an orthographic 2D view, then rebuild it. What i most need is help with the front of the ship: I don't have any good or fancy ideas to use on the nose, including the cockpit. Also, when this comes closer together, would anyone be willing to work on the cockpit with me? I will need to convert this from DWG or another AutoCAD compatible file to something else. Does Collada support DWG yet?
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Because every ship class from the two games did, so if you want to stay in-universe, you'd better do the same. :p

Wrong sir, wrong!

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/NTF_Iceni

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Shivan_Comm_Node  :p

 

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Quick update--I'm done with 2/3 of the isometric drawing. Attached below. I still need to do the side view: top and front are complete.

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The Iceni were a population of primitive British guys who rebelled to the Romans(idiots :P) and Boadicea was their queen. Even if the name isn't a mythological one it's still connected to ancient History.

As for the Node...meh... :doubt:
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Back on topic, please. I'm in the middle of the next view. After this, I'll model bottom/left/rear. Right now, I'm getting a good blueprint in, of course. After this, I'll convert a single view into surfaces and extrude those surfaces to become 3D objects. I'll align those as best as possible, then I will do similar with a second view. From there, I will be able to start using the Intersect command, and trim off excess portions of those (crude) surfaces. Basically continue on to a third. From #4 and onward, I may just redraw the design directly onto the model--and use it all for greebling as that's what the additional views I'll be using are for.
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Come back on MSN...
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Revised: new version of prior image. The view on your left is with the weapon pods attached, the view on your right is behind the weapon pods.

EDIT: A good bit more done: I've converted it to a rough 3D sketch. I still need to figure a few things out--I need to smooth the cockpit a bit, but I've decided on how to do gun-mounts. Right now, it's basically a .1m thick "barrel". The barrel itself is nicely formed in my opinion--and it's my opinion that counts! :lol: Anyways--I've welded together a good bit of it. Attached are two renders. The former is parallel projection and the latter perspective.

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GTF Great big cube

 

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There already is a GTC Great Big Cube :rolleyes:
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