[Colonol Dekker]

Hilarity breeds contempt, add some randomness though and it'll stick


I wish ELECT Obama all the best, as long as he doesn't shift military forces around TOO much

[Bob-san]

Oh--and I do want to see exactly how the democrats in the past 2 years have done us such a favor. The only thing I remember from the past two years is Pelosi effectively refusing to work with Bush

I think you've answered your own question.

Last I checked, Congress and Senate are to pass bills into law with meaning. She's wasted time and lost opportunities to compromise. Our system is based on compromise--so her refusing to work with the opposite party makes her leadership ineffective. The Supreme Court has the highest approval of all current branches of government. I find it appalling that approval continues to be below 25% for congress, and most people who disapproved felt that way because of inaction.

[karajorma]

Given the laws Bush did manage to pass I'm hardly surprised they didn't want to work with Bush.

Besides compromise is a two way street and I didn't see much when the Republicans were in charge.

[General Battuta]

Oh--and I do want to see exactly how the democrats in the past 2 years have done us such a favor. The only thing I remember from the past two years is Pelosi effectively refusing to work with Bush

I think you've answered your own question.

Last I checked, Congress and Senate are to pass bills into law with meaning. She's wasted time and lost opportunities to compromise. Our system is based on compromise--so her refusing to work with the opposite party makes her leadership ineffective. The Supreme Court has the highest approval of all current branches of government. I find it appalling that approval continues to be below 25% for congress, and most people who disapproved felt that way because of inaction.

Much of that legislation was stuck because of Republican filibuster.

[TrashMan]

Here's the big reason we should give Obama a chance: He's not Bush. Let him show us what he will do. If we went with McCain it would just be like re-electing Bush.

SPECIAL NEWS FLASH: McCain and Bush are two different persons! Shocking!

[Colonol Dekker]

True.

[Turambar]

SPECIAL NEWS FLASH: McCain and Bush are two different persons! Shocking!

Different bodies.  McCain was going to take the worst parts of Bush's policies and make them even worse.
Trickle down economics has worked so well for the past 8 years.  Now, instead of relying on a few people to trickle down all over us, we get the vast majority of people now going to trickle up.  You'll see it works much better.

[TrashMan]

So you say. So you think.

I for one think McCain is FAR better than Obama.

[mister J]

So you say. So you think.

I for one think McCain is FAR better than Obama.

So you say. So you think.

[perihelion]

See signature below.

[Polpolion]

As non-American, I see the election of Obama as a proof that the US is not a big pile of dumb people who don't know what's going on in the world. Except for some exceptions, of course I hope I'm not offending anyone, but I was really thinking that after Bush was re-elected. Even though I was only 13 at the time.

Even if Obama does only half of what he promised, he already showed the world that the United States don't want to be guilty anymore of about everything that goes wrong on this planet. He showed that the Americans want to gain a respected place in the eyes of the world community, instead of being feared, hated and laughed at.

To be frank, I don't really care what "the rest of the world" thinks about the "US" anymore. I've had it with "the rest of the world" when "the rest of the world" decided that "Americans" were "stupid" because they re-elected Bush. "The rest of the world" is just as "stupid" as they thought "Americans" were when Bush was re-elected.

I supported (not voted for) Obama because I felt that he showed more promise than McCain in regards to repairing (or rather minimizing damage to) the US economy, among other things, not because I wanted the rest of the world to like me again.

[KappaWing]

"The rest of the world" is just as "stupid" as they thought "Americans" were when Bush was re-elected.

I don't understand this argument. How is "The rest of the world" "stupid" when Bush was re-elected? I think it proved that the median American is indeed "stupid" as "the rest of the world" predicted.

[Polpolion]

If a single poor desicion from less than 20% of the US population makes the entire US population of 300,000,000 total idiots, then I suppose you're right, KappaWing.

[Mars]

I voted for Obama because I believe he is the most likely to smooth out the US's problems with the rest of the world, and vice versa. I think Iran with nukes would be a serious problem, but a war with Iran, nukes or not, would be very ill advised. We need to improve our relations with Canada and China. We need to re ally ourselves with our allies, and we need to stabilize our economy.

I didn't see anything in McCain that was promising on any of those fronts.

"The rest of the world" is just as "stupid" as they thought "Americans" were when Bush was re-elected.

I don't understand this argument. How is "The rest of the world" "stupid" when Bush was re-elected? I think it proved that the median American is indeed "stupid" as "the rest of the world" predicted.

I personally am sick of being called stupid because of the election of a president when I was too young to vote.

[chief1983]

So do you like Obama more because he's pro-life or because he wants our troops to finish the job in Iraq?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM2xHggg7Uk

[Mars]

Funny, really.

Try the same thing in Euro countries, I dare you. You'll get the same reaction.

[KappaWing]

If a single poor desicion from less than 20% of the US population makes the entire US population of 300,000,000 total idiots, then I suppose you're right, KappaWing.

I personally am sick of being called stupid because of the election of a president when I was too young to vote.

Well it was the percentage who bothered to go out and vote and represent themselves. Someone who was able to vote but did not has no right to complain when other countries assess the median citizen of his.

Of course, we are special circumstances as we are too young to vote, but an arbitrary limit on age has to be set somewhere. Granted, I think 18 is too high. I think it should be 16, the same age you can drive, drop out of school, join the military, etc.

I think other countries realize that we are not a nation of brainwashed idiots united behind our leader(s), we have a two party system with one party only inching above the other, although the way they can throw their weight around without due restraint doesen't give an impression of moderation.

As of this election, the median voting American.... is not an idiot.

[Mongoose]

I personally am sick of being called stupid because of the election of a president when I was too young to vote.

And I am equally sick of being called "stupid" because I voted for a particular person in an informed manner with the honest belief that he would be better than the alternative.  It's almost the exact opposite reason as thesizzler, but I completely agree with his opinion about that nebulous "rest of the world" concept.  I am an American, and I vote for the candidate whom I feel will be best suited to govern this country, not anyone else's.  The political and social environments of the United States and Europe are two vastly different things, and I'll be damned if I'm going to let a bunch of complete outsiders sit on some high horse and look on me with disdain because I made a judgment call based on my understanding of my own country and its needs.

[Colonol Dekker]

Everyones entitled to vote for who they want to as layed out in the constitution. As far as age goes, being made to wait is part of youth. Just be patient, we all go through it. Be patient.

[skygunner58203]

I voted for Obama.  Something about McCain didn't sit right with me and I learned to trust my gut.  I am actually not sure what it was about him that set me off but i know something did.....maybe it was his freak of a vp candidate....who knows......