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Offline Roanoke

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Re: General Motors (GM) in trouble
Selling Saab could raise some quick cash. TBH I think there's only really Buick and Chevrolet who compete. Though, I was surprised Chervolet came to the UK as they probably cross over with Vauxhall-Opel.

I like Saturn. They've always seemed more modern that the other GM stable. Why the hell is the UK not getting the Satun Sky/Opel GT ffs ?

 

Offline Scuddie

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Probably because it's not cost effective to send that much plastic overseas :D.
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Offline Roanoke

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Germany is getting it in the form of the Opel GT.  :sigh:

Are Saturns still plastic ? Presumeably the Opel based models are steel bodied ?

 

Offline Mars

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Saturns are plastic. However, they're not bad in a crash.

 

Offline IceFire

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Re: General Motors (GM) in trouble
Saturns are plastic. However, they're not bad in a crash.
Not anymore.  All new Saturn's are steel like the Opel's they are based on.
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Offline vyper

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Re: General Motors (GM) in trouble
Selling Saab could raise some quick cash. TBH I think there's only really Buick and Chevrolet who compete. Though, I was surprised Chervolet came to the UK as they probably cross over with Vauxhall-Opel.

I like Saturn. They've always seemed more modern that the other GM stable. Why the hell is the UK not getting the Satun Sky/Opel GT ffs ?

Hard to say - but the VX220 which it replaces didn't sell as well as Vauxhall wanted. The problem was everyone knew it was basically a Lotus Elise with more kit - and which badge would you rather have on your driveway? It's possible the lack of breakthrough success put VX executives off releasing it here.

Also, Chevy was a huge mistake here - at least the Daewoo acquisition and usage was anyway. Everyone now thinks of dodgy little superminis and city cars that needed to be completely rebuilt before they were even at the same basic level as a Fiesta, Punto, or Smart.

Final point - Saab has some of the most promising and best all-round cars/platforms in the market. The bio-power engines being a prime example of this. Selling them would be daft, but at the same time I hope they do it so Saab doesn't get dragged down by GM crashing - I like the 9-5 Aero Hot.
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Offline colecampbell666

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As for all of the comments on Saturns, the plastic adds a benefit. You can just heat them and push them back into shape after a crash. Literally, my dad does that after my mom wrecks the car like every day. (So maybe only once, but who cares)

And also, the older Saturns are some of the most reliable cars on the road, our 2001 LS300 has NEVER had a single repair. Never.

Although the new ones, being based on another brand, lose that.
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Offline Roanoke

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Re: General Motors (GM) in trouble
Selling Saab could raise some quick cash. TBH I think there's only really Buick and Chevrolet who compete. Though, I was surprised Chervolet came to the UK as they probably cross over with Vauxhall-Opel.

I like Saturn. They've always seemed more modern that the other GM stable. Why the hell is the UK not getting the Satun Sky/Opel GT ffs ?

Hard to say - but the VX220 which it replaces didn't sell as well as Vauxhall wanted. The problem was everyone knew it was basically a Lotus Elise with more kit - and which badge would you rather have on your driveway? It's possible the lack of breakthrough success put VX executives off releasing it here.

Also, Chevy was a huge mistake here - at least the Daewoo acquisition and usage was anyway. Everyone now thinks of dodgy little superminis and city cars that needed to be completely rebuilt before they were even at the same basic level as a Fiesta, Punto, or Smart.

Final point - Saab has some of the most promising and best all-round cars/platforms in the market. The bio-power engines being a prime example of this. Selling them would be daft, but at the same time I hope they do it so Saab doesn't get dragged down by GM crashing - I like the 9-5 Aero Hot.

The VX220 had no heritage and was a complete odd-ball in the line-up. Plus Griff Rhys Jones in his pants. Like the Nissan-Alfa partnership years ago, they failed to build upon their individual strengths.

Launching Chevrolet UK with rebadged Daewoos must have been a huge mistake. How do they expect UK drivers, who've had no experience of the brand outside of here, to take the new Camaro seriously ?
Remember when they tried to sell Corvettes and Camaros through Vauxhall dealers and literally sold about 25 of them (granted LHD only) ?

Most Saabs run on GM family platfroms but I can se them being more attractive to possible suitors than any other GM brand.  :)