[pecenipicek]

Well, its not really the usa's fault that it has to steal just about everything ever made to simply be able to exist. I wonder who or what wil they steal to fix the financial crisis they themselves made

[StarSlayer]

Your first born children.  Which we will feed into our demonic engine that boils down their raw materials and generates mortgage payments and Big Macs. 

[Jeff Vader]

Your first born children.  Which we will feed into our demonic engine that boils down their raw materials and generates mortgage payments and Big Macs. 

Oh, just one of those. I was hoping for something new this time.

[Colonol Dekker]

Every time you type in "English" i smile in self satisfaction

[pecenipicek]

dobro, onda neću pisati engleskim.

Spoiler:

throw that in a translator to find out the meaning

[Flipside]

A lot of these inventions happened in a lot of places at the same time, it's quite eerie how often that happens to be honest

[captain-custard]

Well, its not really the usa's fault that it has to steal just about everything ever made to simply be able to exist. I wonder who or what wil they steal to fix the financial crisis they themselves made

iran

[pecenipicek]

*facepalm*


[edit] to convey my feelings a bit better...

[Stormkeeper]

*facepalm*

[MP-Ryan]

The machine gun, the ironclad warship, the car, and the jet liner were all American inventions. That suggests to me that our education system has, at some point in the past, worked.

the telephone

Sorry.  The principles of the telephone were actually established by an Italian in Florence - Bell just held the later patent after altering the design.

the atom bomb

The Manhattan project was not conducted solely by Americans, and neither Einstein nor Szilard (who essentially started the project through a letter to Roosevelt) were Americans (Einstein held Swiss citizenship and Szilard was Hungarian).

[NGTM-1R]

What's the definition of an ironclad? The Merrimack was nothing more than an iron/steel/whatever coated wooden ship, but the monitor was actually an all metal ship. Are they still both ironclads, or is one like a demi-ironclad?

Armored warship with iron armor. The material of the hull is irrevelant. Most ironclads were wood, it made for better displacement and weight-of-armor/weight-of-fire. The Union experimented with tin-clad and rubber-clad vessels, but only the tin-clads were really successful. (They were frequently used for transports and in areas where attack by confederate forces from the riverside was worried about; they stood up well to light cannonfire and small arms and tin was light enough that they could armor shallow-draft but large vessels fully.) The Confederacy had a number of river steamers that were dubbed "cottonclads" because they stacked the decks with packed cotton bales...which proved surprisingly effective armor.

Ironclad engagements were more or less of necessity inconclusive. Those designed to ram, which the Confederacy frequently built, had a potentional battlewinner against another ironclad, but most of the time they could not in the end actually defeat each other. Occasionally you could shoot away your opponent's rudder cables, or perhaps drive him aground. But armor penetration was a foreign concept. Only the CSS Manassas (which arguably deserves the term of first Confederate ironclad over the Virginia) ever had its armor penetrated, and it had a 1-inch armor/hull and made the mistake of going against Farragut's battle line at Mobile Bay where it was getting hit by an absolute deluge of projectiles ten times or more that size. In theory it was possible to pound on an ironclad's armor until the ship's supporting structures broke under the strain, but this was only achieved once; again at Mobile Bay, where Farragut's battle line and monitors surrounded the crippled CSS Tennesse and pounded on it for nearly an hour.

[kalnaren]

The machine gun, the ironclad warship, the car, and the jet liner were all American inventions. That suggests to me that our education system has, at some point in the past, worked.

the telephone

Sorry.  The principles of the telephone were actually established by an Italian in Florence - Bell just held the later patent after altering the design.

IIRC, Bell was also a Canadian citizen at the time.

[IceFire]

The machine gun, the ironclad warship, the car, and the jet liner were all American inventions. That suggests to me that our education system has, at some point in the past, worked.

the telephone

Sorry.  The principles of the telephone were actually established by an Italian in Florence - Bell just held the later patent after altering the design.

IIRC, Bell was also a Canadian citizen at the time.

Indeed...he was Scottish born, Canadian citizen, and did part of his work in the US.  The Telephone invention sort of gets to be spread around a bit

[peterv]

Only one thing is certain gentlemen: ETAK project is an NTF invention. 

[Polpolion]

pfft no.

[peterv]

 

[Mars]

I'd just like to point out that I was only trying to say that the US is not an intellectual wasteland when I said it invented those things. I wasn't trying to do a oneupmanship, I was trying to point out that it has some potential and

Well, its not really the usa's fault that it has to steal just about everything ever made to simply be able to exist. I wonder who or what wil they steal to fix the financial crisis they themselves made

is a prime example of the stupidity involved with with such puerile reasoning.

Besides, taking all the talent from other countries is a valid strategy

[peterv]

Besides, taking all the talent from other countries is a valid strategy

And, to be quite fair, it presumes intelligence.

[CmdKewin]

Besides, taking all the talent from other countries is a valid strategy

And, to be quite fair, it presumes intelligence.

Or instinct?... The difference is subtle....

Any way, let's not forget Enrico Fermi, an Italian, creator of the first Atomic reactor... without which an A-Bomb would have bben impossible.

[BrotherBryon]

How about the micro processor. First fielded by Intel although I think there was a Japanese man on the design team.