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Offline Setekh

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C&C has, I'll admit, some merits. At about 50000 versions, it damn well should.


Typical Westwood... flog an idea till it bleeds and begs for mercy...
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Originally posted by Setekh


Typical Westwood... flog an idea till it bleeds and begs for mercy...


I don't care about that new series or red alert, but I sure want the tiberium series to go on.
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Offline CP5670

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The first Command & Conquer was simply awesome. It had it all- good story and campaigns, cool sides and units, good movies, good multiplayer, everything. RA was very good too but not as great as the original, and TS was good but could not really stand up to other games around its time. (should have been released about 2 years before its actual date) The same goes for RA2. If only they could make the next game as good as C&C was in its day...

 

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well, technically, generals seems up to date (tho the plane model is really too low poly -btw WTF? f22 raptor??? that's a f23 black widow damnit!-)
RA2 is not great technocally, but it has some very cool features and very original units. in Mplayer, tanks rushes just woudln't work I think (tho I've never tried it)
TS disapointed me, you can't even imagine, but firestorm made it much better (still not enough)
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Offline Stryke 9

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Kamikaze: I like. I'm holding out for Earth 3, tho...

[WARNING: hardly anyone knows anything at all about the background to the following blather. I estimate 100 people total]

Zuxxez is really starting to annoy me a bit... they keep claiming they're gonna release E3, after Topware bombed... but how often, exactly, do companies scavenge game engines and even ****ING UNITS off of games they plan to release, and put them in other games?

 

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Originally posted by CP5670
The first Command & Conquer was simply awesome. It had it all- good story and campaigns, cool sides and units, good movies, good multiplayer, everything. RA was very good too but not as great as the original, and TS was good but could not really stand up to other games around its time. (should have been released about 2 years before its actual date) The same goes for RA2. If only they could make the next game as good as C&C was in its day...


I agree whole heartedly. :nod: The good ol' C&C is still probably my favorite, lol. Even if its only at like 800x600 res. ;)
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I agree whole heartedly. :nod: The good ol' C&C is still probably my favorite, lol. Even if its only at like 800x600 res. ;)


lol, I have the dos version in VGA, and honestly, I prefer it that way, units are too tiny in 800*600 :p
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Offline Kamikaze

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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Kamikaze: I like. I'm holding out for Earth 3, tho...

[WARNING: hardly anyone knows anything at all about the background to the following blather. I estimate 100 people total]

Zuxxez is really starting to annoy me a bit... they keep claiming they're gonna release E3, after Topware bombed... but how often, exactly, do companies scavenge game engines and even ****ING UNITS off of games they plan to release, and put them in other games?


I wanna play Earth 3 too :( Wonder where it went...
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yeah another great RTS game from Westwood incredibly inballanced... crappy grafixs all for the masses lets buy it the stamped C&C on it it must be good...

hear that thats wetswood zombies

*must have westwood games muuuuust have westwood games*:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

And now with new features lets rip of starcraft because we cant be original and must copy blizzard...

oh please:doubt:
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The ****ty thing about Westwood is that they think times haven't changed, and everyone still wants to play an archaic strategy game, years behind it's time. They just re-package it with new units and a new storyline, and ship the **** out.

 

Offline Redfang

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Originally posted by CP5670
The first Command & Conquer was simply awesome. It had it all- good story and campaigns, cool sides and units, good movies, good multiplayer, everything. RA was very good too but not as great as the original, and TS was good but could not really stand up to other games around its time. (should have been released about 2 years before its actual date) The same goes for RA2. If only they could make the next game as good as C&C was in its day...

 
:nod::yes: Agreed.
 
The first C&C was indeed amazing game, and RA was very good too. TS was average (with Firestorm :p better), RA2 was pretty average, too.

But there was a few other good games from Westwood, like Dune 2 and Dune 2000. I haven't played Emperor (or Renegade, but that's not RTS), and not excepting too much for Generals, we will see.

 

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I have a shakycam video (on my PC at work) of Generals in action (from E3 or something) and it looks sweet. Much better then Emperor.
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What's really sad about Westwood is that all of their RTS games are built on the same old crappy code as their first product.  I have some experience with modding their games, and I know the basics of how each WW RTS works; they all run off of a rules.ini file (similar to a combo of ships.tbl and weapons.tbl), art.ini (stuff about graphics not contained within graphics files), and a few other very small configuration files.  It is easy to see that the code is the same basically (all data formats are virtually the same, graphics work in the same ways, controls don't change, etc) from one game to another, but it gets really obvious when you open the rules files.  I mean, there are tags in each ini that are from the old Dune 2 which have no context in command and conquer; the tags don't change from one game to another (with only a few modifications, the Tiberian Sun rules will work in RA2), and each game simply adds more crap on top of the old code.  In short, WW games are as unoriginal as they come.
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Offline Nico

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Originally posted by StratComm
What's really sad about Westwood is that all of their RTS games are built on the same old crappy code as their first product.  I have some experience with modding their games, and I know the basics of how each WW RTS works; they all run off of a rules.ini file (similar to a combo of ships.tbl and weapons.tbl), art.ini (stuff about graphics not contained within graphics files), and a few other very small configuration files.  It is easy to see that the code is the same basically (all data formats are virtually the same, graphics work in the same ways, controls don't change, etc) from one game to another, but it gets really obvious when you open the rules files.  I mean, there are tags in each ini that are from the old Dune 2 which have no context in command and conquer; the tags don't change from one game to another (with only a few modifications, the Tiberian Sun rules will work in RA2), and each game simply adds more crap on top of the old code.  In short, WW games are as unoriginal as they come.


what's the use of changfing stuff if it works fine? t's not like the games are slow or anything on the latest comps. I never heard anybody complaining about the quake series sharing (more or less) the same data files.

As for the game, it does look sweet and, for once, looks DIFFERENT. so wait and see.
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Mmm... might as well wait until the game comes out and the reviews too. But with WC3 out, maybe not (although I don't really like WC3 that much... why'd they dump sc2 for wc3?). But anyway, I'm goin to see LoTR: The Two Towers :P  Trailer for it here . Looks pretty cool. Oh, damn.... It ain't gonna come out until Christmas... sigh... why'd they have to wait 12 months to release it when they'd already recorded em all. Never mind.
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Offline Nico

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Mmm... might as well wait until the game comes out and the reviews too. But with WC3 out, maybe not (although I don't really like WC3 that much... why'd they dump sc2 for wc3?). But anyway, I'm goin to see LoTR: The Two Towers :P  Trailer for it here . Looks pretty cool. Oh, damn.... It ain't gonna come out until Christmas... sigh... why'd they have to wait 12 months to release it when they'd already recorded em all. Never mind.


coz the actors part has been recorded, true, but they still had to do all the CGI work.

and i'd rather have WC3, 4 and 5 than SC2 :p
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and i'd rather have WC3, 4 and 5 than SC2


Well, anyway, at the end of the SC campaign missions they talk about the upcoming SC2... which they dumped. Hopefully now they finished WC3 they work on SC2.
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Offline NeoHunter

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Well, anyway, at the end of the SC campaign missions they talk about the upcoming SC2... which they dumped. Hopefully now they finished WC3 they work on SC2.


I hope Blizzard Entertainment does come out with Starcraft 2. The story in Starcraft left us hanging as to what happened to Zeratul, Raynor and the state of the entire Koprulu Sector that is now under Zerg control.:)

 
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On the subject of sequels, I'd like to see Alpha Centauri 2, Heroes of Might & Magic IV. There's probably tons more games much in need of updating rather than the C&C series.
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