[brandx0]

Yeah, I don't believe I'll be doing the Y-Wing from the clone wars 3d movie, to be honest I think it's ugly as hell.

[chief1983]

Was that in the movie or just the series?  I watched it recently and don't remember seeing that ship.

[aRaven]

it was in one episode. personally i think the "evolutionary" steps of starship design is much too overemphasized to be believable anymore in my opinion and the clone wars y-wing prototype lost all individuality and flair the original ship had.

[Narvi]

The Clone Wars one isn't supposed to be the prototype. It's supposed to be the production model. The rebel Y-wings were stripped-down models for easy maintenance.

[aRaven]

it didnt look like it

[Narvi]

it didnt look like it

  Yes it does.

Here's the original. It's all stripped down, with exposed wiring and the like. Here's a better view of the Clone Wars series Y-wing. It's obviously the ANH Y-wing with full fairing and armour.

Though to be completely accurate, it's supposed to be a variant. Sort of like how the F-15 has variants out the wazoo.

[StarSlayer]

Wow that looks like Bantha dung.  They managed to simultaneously make the Wishbone look like prequel crap as well as doubling the thing's target silhouette making it tactically worse.    It never ceases to amaze me how thorough Lucas and crew are about curb stomping the "verse"

[aRaven]

it didnt look like it

  Yes it does.

Here's the original. It's all stripped down, with exposed wiring and the like. Here's a better view of the Clone Wars series Y-wing. It's obviously the ANH Y-wing with full fairing and armour.

Though to be completely accurate, it's supposed to be a variant. Sort of like how the F-15 has variants out the wazoo.

ah now i see it...well it still is ugly and unpractical..the armoured ywing from the crossections book is much better

[Narvi]

Wow that looks like Bantha dung.  They managed to simultaneously make the Wishbone look like prequel crap as well as doubling the thing's target silhouette making it tactically worse.    It never ceases to amaze me how thorough Lucas and crew are about curb stomping the "verse"

I like the new lines. It fits with the original's curves very well .

Anyway, it's a bomber, it's not supposed to dogfight in the first place. The thing had a horrible target profile initially, and it got shot down whenever it went up against a fighter in ANH.

Not to mention that the extra bits are all non-essential systems, so any stray laser bolts aren't going to cripple it if it hits.

[TopAce]

...Anyway, it's a bomber, it's not supposed to dogfight in the first place. The thing had a horrible target profile initially, and it got shot down whenever it went up against a fighter in ANH...

They were killed so easily because they were attacked from behind. Not even X-wings were a match in the trench run.

[swashmebuckle]

The clone wars one looks like they put the ship in a mumu!  And gave her hair extensions...  Check out the badass covered variant in the lost ships gallery linked to in Brand's sig (it's the 1st pic)--it both retains the warhorse/jalopy feel of the original AND looks like something that could have at one point been repulsorlifted out onto a showroom floor.  It also looks like a lot less work on the modeling side, which is probably its best selling point considering how many ships the man is tackling.  As to it's dogfighting ability, a Y wing was one of the 3 fighters shown to survive Yavin even though a lot more X-wings went up.  Maybe that's only because using that model made it easier to get the shot done, but it still counts!

[brandx0]

And another update.

And yes, I'm using displacement for this render, and probably for future renders as well:

[StarSlayer]

If your not tired of hearing praise then i'm not tired of dishing it out  because that Wishbone is awesome.  Truly great work brand, its a damn shame about your hard drive and Diaspora losing you as a resource but hells teeth your new models are amazing.

[brandx0]

I'm totally tired of hearing praise.  Nobody can ever say anything good about my models again, that's a new rule.

Just kidding, you may continue =P

[Vector Leader]

Greetings! You guys have got a jaw dropping Star Wars mod going on here. I'm seriously impressed with what is being accomplished. And on Freespace 2's old engine? How did you pull that off? Even more so, I'm amazed with how technically accurate the specs and models are. Especially for a Star Wars mod. Awesome work!

Personally, I really like the BTL-B model in TCW. However, I do have several concerns with certain details about it that haven't been explicitly outlined by LFL. Details that could very well ruin canonical history of the BTL-A4 models showcased in the OT. Like how they predate the X-wing by *only* several years. Whereas, the X-wings were in Alliance service for about two years during the events of ANH. Unless LFL are referring to the basic design of the BTL Y-wing series of starfighters and not specifically the single seater A4 models (or the two seater S3 models). Again, LFL have not clarified this. Which upsets me 'cause the Y-wing is my favorite starfighter.

Also, I'm a bit concerned about the BTL-B in relation to the brand new "off the assembly line" A4 models shown in the Incredible Cross Sections book a couple years ago. Is LFL truly aiming to replace it with the B model as THE brand new "off the assembly line" Y-wing? If so, that raises some more issues. The A4 models are so drastically different in capability as well as cockpit design and landing skid placement, it denotes a completely different factory model. And I find it highly unlikely the fledgling and meagerly funded Alliance had enough funds and resources to drastically modify the old BTL-Bs into the A4s we've seen in the films (or the S3s). Especially considering how many of them they supposedly had. Rather, I think there's still merit to the "off the assembly line" A4 model shown in the Incredible Cross Section book that shows a much newer model of the Y-wing (a brand new A4 model) the Alliance started acquiring from Koensayr, and used them as the basis for modification into the stripped A4 models shown in the OT.

I'm hoping the "off the assembly line" version of the A4 models that were created before the HD crashed will be recreated. I was really bummed about that. They looked damn good.  

Still, I can't help but love the BTL-B. lol It is rather slick, imo. It definitely fits the profile of a "bomber".

Wow that looks like Bantha dung.  They managed to simultaneously make the Wishbone look like prequel crap as well as doubling the thing's target silhouette making it tactically worse.    It never ceases to amaze me how thorough Lucas and crew are about curb stomping the "verse"

I like the new lines. It fits with the original's curves very well .

Anyway, it's a bomber, it's not supposed to dogfight in the first place. The thing had a horrible target profile initially, and it got shot down whenever it went up against a fighter in ANH.

Not to mention that the extra bits are all non-essential systems, so any stray laser bolts aren't going to cripple it if it hits.

Well, technically no. The BTL-B Y-wing is a bomber. The BTL-A4 Y-wing is NOT. It's a multi-purpose starfighter with a combat designation of 'Attack Starfighter'. It's role as a bomber is just one of it's many combat roles. It's an amazingly versatile starfighter. And I have to disagree about it's target profile. It's not great, but it's not horrible either. But yeah, I like the BTL-B's design, too.

There were 22 T-65b X-wings that participated in the BOY and only 8 BTL-A4 Y-wings. Of which, only two had functioning ion cannons. One of them survived. Only 2 X-wings survived. One of them badly damaged and the other only survived because a certain Correllian smuggler intervened. So you tell me which fighter is more effective.

It's been stated by LFL that the other five Y-wings in Gold Squadron were successfully engaging (and eliminating) intercepting T.I.E. Fighters along side Red Squadron's X-wings at the BOY. One of them was the one that survived (the one with the operational ion cannons), Keyan Farlander's Y-wing.

Also, and I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes (it's the perfectionist in me lol ), the nose of the Y-wing needs to be corrected as it's got too much curvature and protrudes out just a little too far. The original model was spot on. Like this:

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[brandx0]

And now a fun one!

[aRaven]

the cockpit of the xwing seems a little big...

should i say...out of proportion?

compare with this: http://www.scifi3d.com/wip_details.asp?intGenreID=10&intCatID=10&key=132

[Flaser]

the cockpit of the xwing seems a little big...

should i say...out of proportion?

compare with this: http://www.scifi3d.com/wip_details.asp?intGenreID=10&intCatID=10&key=132

It's caused by the intense color of the cockpit edge, and the solid fill of the widows makes you "feel" it's bigger than the see-through glass cockpit.

[swashmebuckle]

That last render melted my face.  Maybe the cockpit does come up a little higher than in that other (also good looking) model, but that perception probably has more to do with the reasons Flaser mentioned and the fact that the S-foils are closed on NuX, meaning no big engines hulking above and around the canopy.  Or maybe they changed the design because they decided it would be good if the pilot could see straight ahead.  Either way, 

[brandx0]

All righty, so two things.  First off I've done my best to match his camera angle, but I didn't really spend too much time on it, just wanted to get the feel.

Secondly, while we're nitpicking:  That's a 3D model he's done, not an actual photo of the filming model.  It's a fantastic model, but still just a model... though if you look at the other views of the model he's made, I think his cockpit is too wide =P



Also, he forgot R2 =P