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Offline FUBAR-BDHR

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
One of the things about these stories no one seems to have hit upon is what happens afterwards.  The break down your door, break your windows, toss their flash bangs causing not only breakage but smoke damage as well and kill your pets.  Then they find out it's the wrong place and guess what?  You are responsible for everything.  They cannot be held accountable because they obtained a search warrant.  Doesn't matter that they screwed up and put the wrong address on it.  The judge signed it it's legal and you have no recourse.  This may not be true everywhere as people are trying to get laws changed because of incidents like these but in most places it is. 
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Offline iamzack

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
I like when the cops at my school spend all their time arresting kids for pot and truancy instead of protecting us from getting mugged in the ****ing parking lot. That's a lot of fun.
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
One of the things about these stories no one seems to have hit upon is what happens afterwards.  The break down your door, break your windows, toss their flash bangs causing not only breakage but smoke damage as well and kill your pets.  Then they find out it's the wrong place and guess what?  You are responsible for everything.  They cannot be held accountable because they obtained a search warrant.  Doesn't matter that they screwed up and put the wrong address on it.  The judge signed it it's legal and you have no recourse.  This may not be true everywhere as people are trying to get laws changed because of incidents like these but in most places it is. 

I agree, somehow, the Police are never wrong, and fabricating a story to cover their own asses is perfectly a-okay.

I like when the cops at my school spend all their time arresting kids for pot and truancy instead of protecting us from getting mugged in the ****ing parking lot. That's a lot of fun.

Well now does anyone who gets mugged in the parking lot talk?

I'm going to assume the majority don't out of fear of reprisals, its a vicious cycle and there isn't a lot you can do about it. Other than turn around and punch the **** in the face and tell him to give HIS money or you'll show him how the hood of a car tastes like (plenty of fun for those of you that get in fights in parking lots).

 

Offline iamzack

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
Uhh... well, kids have been getting mugged at gunpoint and knifepoint walking to school. One kid got the **** kicked out of him right after school in the student parking lot. And last month a vice principal got mugged in the teacher parking lot. We're in the news rather a lot.

If you're on school property and you even threaten to fight back, you get suspended, so... yeah, we're supposed to rely on rent-a-cops. And the Raleigh police. Who don't give a damn.
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
Uhh... well, kids have been getting mugged at gunpoint and knifepoint walking to school. One kid got the **** kicked out of him right after school in the student parking lot. And last month a vice principal got mugged in the teacher parking lot. We're in the news rather a lot.

If you're on school property and you even threaten to fight back, you get suspended, so... yeah, we're supposed to rely on rent-a-cops. And the Raleigh police. Who don't give a damn.

Can't you argue the suspension and say it was self-defense or something? While I do have respect for the Police, reaching for your phone to call  the cops instead of the guy's knife or whatever is kind of a stupid way to ensure the safety of students. Your school sounds like it's in the middle of the Bronx or something, I don't think I would even go to school with all that **** happening, a suspension sounds waaaaaay better than losing my money/integrity/self-esteem.

 

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
Well, that's life. The school is in a rough area, but no high school is safe. :\
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
Well, that's life. The school is in a rough area, but no high school is safe. :\

......and I thought some of the high schools around here were bad   :shaking:

Well if it's in a bad area I guess that's what's to be expected, you get used to it, or like the 'feel' at least

 

Offline iamzack

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
Yeah, pretty much. Get to school early and park in front of the building, don't try to look wealthy, etc.

I wish we were allowed to carry, like, mace or something. The security guards aren't, so they're pretty much useless. They just ride around on bikes and check for lunch passes when people try to go off campus.
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
Yeah, pretty much. Get to school early and park in front of the building, don't try to look wealthy, etc.

Same goes here too, except guns and knives being used isnt soo commonplace.

The security guards aren't, so they're pretty much useless. They just ride around on bikes and check for lunch passes when people try to go off campus.

That sounds like a bloody joke. I knew about schools with Security Guards like that, about as useful as a Monk in a whorehouse. They hardly made a difference, in fact one of the companies refused to keep throwing their guys at one of the really bad schools which is practically in the 'slums' unless the school/government overturned their ban on weapons being used by security companies at schools....or soo I heard anyway, I can't imagine a school even needing security within 50 miles of where I live.

 

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
the school i went to had way too much security. considering it was a place for psychoes like myself so i guess that wasnt a bad thing. you had to go through metal detectors each time you entered or left the building. and they would always go off no matter how few buttons you had in your clothing. so youd get a nice frendly close in scan with a hand want and a friendly patdown at least twice a day. you had to fight to smuggle cds and computer games into the place. mp3 players were in there infancy back then. i knew this one kid who had an 8 meg diamond rio, dispite that he couldnt even carry a full album on the thing, it made him pretty popular. i remember i had a huge stack of 34 floppy disks i used to move games and music around. anyway the security guards to student ratio was so big that you were on a first name basis with all of them, the guy youd talk sports with on tuesday would be one of the guys who knocks you to the floor on wednsday when you look at another student crosseyed or tried to escape. sorta made up for our lack of a football team. if you managed to get out of the building they would call the cops.
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
the school i went to had way too much security. considering it was a place for psychoes like myself so i guess that wasnt a bad thing. you had to go through metal detectors each time you entered or left the building. and they would always go off no matter how few buttons you had in your clothing. so youd get a nice frendly close in scan with a hand want and a friendly patdown at least twice a day. you had to fight to smuggle cds and computer games into the place. mp3 players were in there infancy back then. i knew this one kid who had an 8 meg diamond rio, dispite that he couldnt even carry a full album on the thing, it made him pretty popular. i remember i had a huge stack of 34 floppy disks i used to move games and music around. anyway the security guards to student ratio was so big that you were on a first name basis with all of them, the guy youd talk sports with on tuesday would be one of the guys who knocks you to the floor on wednsday when you look at another student crosseyed or tried to escape. sorta made up for our lack of a football team. if you managed to get out of the building they would call the cops.

Wow, that's like....insane.....

 
Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
If you legalize drugs, you can regulate it, monitor it, and charge tax over it.

Especially the last thing should be usefull :P.

 

Offline Dilmah G

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
If you legalize drugs, you can regulate it, monitor it, and charge tax over it.

Especially the last thing should be usefull :P.

Amen to that, the government would be all over it if someone put that forward.

 

Offline iamzack

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
People do. Every day. But people could easily just grow their own and sell it to their friends to avoid taxes.
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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
People do. Every day. But people could easily just grow their own and sell it to their friends to avoid taxes.

Not that I do drugs, but if I did a certainly wouldn't sell them to my friends. If you're selling something to somebody, chances are you're not very close.

 

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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
you can still get bootleg booze, but its usually some local blend that doesnt travel far, not a lot of demand for it. pretty much the same as it would be if weed was legalized. i sorta like the idea of being able to get a pack of blunts at 711, instead of from an armed felon with a hot temper and a warrant out for his arrest. taxes on it would cover the expenses that legalized use would cause and generate other funds, which could be used to help the cops hunt down child molesters rapists and crooked politicians.

people growing their own isnt the problem. small beans like that doesnt cause any social problems. the problems come from high volume production, sales and distribution that fund organized crime. id rather the government skim off those profits and put them to good use, than a bunch of thugs using the proceeds from drug sales to fund their sex slave trade or international arms deals, or sometimes funding the occasional fascist dictator. if weed were legalized, i dont think the ones who would profit from illegal dope sales would be able to compeet with the legal market and turn a large profit.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2009, 04:53:41 pm by Nuke »
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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
You know, this whole thing reminds me of Damian Cray's plan in Eagle Strike :nod:: (Truncated to stick to the point)

Spoiler:
"But I know how to end it. I've worked it out. And that's what Eagle Strike is all about. A world without drugs. Isn't that something to dream about, Alex? Isn't that worth a few sacrifices? Think about it! The end of the drug problem. And I can make it happen.
(Infodump on where the principal sources of drugs are)
"These are the principal sources of the world's drug problem. This is where the trouble all starts. These are my targets.
...
"This key will give me access to two and a half thousand nuclear missiles. These are American missiles and they are on hair-trigger alert - meaning that they can be launched at a moment's notice. It is my intention to override the NSA's system and to fire twenty-five of those missiles at targets I have carefully chosen around the globe.
It is almost impossible [pshaw!!!] to imagine the devastation that will be caused by twenty-five one-hundred-ton missiles exploding at the same time. South America, Central America, Asia, Africa... almost every continent will feel the pain. And there will be pain, Alex. I am well aware of that.
"But I will have wiped out the poppy fields. The farms and the factories. The refineries, the trade routes, the markets. There will be no more drug suppliers because there will be no more drug supplies. Of course, millions will die. But millions more will be saved.
"That is what Eagle Strike is all about, Alex. The start of a new golden age. A day when all humanity will come together and rejoice.
"That day is now. My time has finally arrived."

Although I was annoyed by everyone calling him 'insane' (in a way - how he doesn't care about all the innocent casualties and environmental damage (which is quite out of character for him) means something is wrong with him), as it's quite a smart plan. Just replace the nukes with Particle Beams and then that would keep civilian deaths to a minimum. But that's beside the point. The point is, that this would a surefire way to actually stop the drug problem. Well, maybe. :nervous:

And also, what would the rest of the world think? :nervous:
But since I care about people, I can think of a much better way: Find a use for marijuana, opium and all that that doesn't hurt people but is actually beneficial. Maybe we can make an alloy with some drug which is really useful or something. :p (Ugh, that's a stupid idea. :snipe:)

 

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You could never get them all, and even if you did people would just make more - poppy fields and refineries and such, I mean.
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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
i sorta like the idea of being able to get a pack of blunts at 711, instead of from an armed felon with a hot temper and a warrant out for his arrest.

I'm still in high school. We all buy from classmates, not criminals.
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Re: Business as usual for the War on Drugs?
i sorta like the idea of being able to get a pack of blunts at 711, instead of from an armed felon with a hot temper and a warrant out for his arrest.

I'm still in high school. We all buy from classmates, not criminals.


technically you are criminals....


but hey


just remember that drugs will turn you into your parents
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