[Fury]

Bigass guns are cool.

[diamondgeezer]

Saphah is reason enough to have a Frigate class

[Alikchi]

Originally posted by Liberator
 I mean if the only rep of this class(NTF Iceni) is any example theres no reason, when a Deimos packs as big a wallop and is cheaper and faster to produce.
All definition provided by www.m-w.com, Merriam-Webster online.  

Don't diss the Iceni! The Deimos can barely scratch it. The Iceni has two BGreens and can take on an Orion without breaking a sweat. A cheaper, easy to produce frigate might have only one BGreen, and less armor. That's still damned good.

[Dranon]

Dreadnaughts have more armor, and firepower than Battleships, but are roughly the same size.

Battlecruisers are essentially Cruisers without as much armor, so they can go faster.  They also might have as much firepower as Battleships.

As for the Iceni, we never really see it do anything except run, or get hit by asteroids (i purposely let it die that way once), so i don't know for sure.

But i would think an FS2 Frigate would have the firepower of a Corvette, but a lot more armor, not as much as a destroyer though.

[Liberator]

I like the Destroyers the way their designated,  I'm thinking  instead of Frigates you'd have Destroyer Escorts.  This is a legitimate naval class that specializes in screening fighters but has the firepower to lend a hand to the larger vessels.

[Setekh]

Originally posted by Bishop Gantry

The 130mm AK-130-MR-184 Universal Automated Shipboard Artillery System.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kirov/index.html

You mean something like this? though I myself still prefeer tripple X turrets;7

Oh yeah...

[MeatPie]

I remember in the original Red Alert cut scene the guns of the cruisers.   Now those were guns

[Shrike]

Originally posted by Dranon
Dreadnaughts have more armor, and firepower than Battleships, but are roughly the same size

Technically speaking, a dreadnought is merely a type of battleship, one which has an all-big-gun armament.  The Deimos and Iceni would be 'dreadnoughts', the allied various destroyers would not.

[Setekh]

Originally posted by Shrike
Technically speaking, a dreadnought is merely a type of battleship, one which has an all-big-gun armament.  The Deimos and Iceni would be 'dreadnoughts', the allied various destroyers would not.

All-big-guns? Is that a smart design? Wouldn't it be a waste if that ship were destroyed?

[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by Setekh


All-big-guns? Is that a smart design? Wouldn't it be a waste if that ship were destroyed?

Heck, why build fighters? Wouldn't it be a waste if they were destroyed?
Frigates are cool, and so are Dreadnoughts

[Setekh]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Heck, why build fighters? Wouldn't it be a waste if they were destroyed?

Not really, because they don't pack so many big guns...

[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by Setekh


Not really, because they don't pack so many big guns...

What about pilots, and Alpha 1, and the TV they put in them so you can see Command bob up and down? Now the TV has got to cost a lot...
Besides, look at how many fighters they make. The GTVA might commision one or two frigates, but it'll commision 10 or 20 fighter wings.

[Shrike]

Originally posted by Setekh
All-big-guns? Is that a smart design? Wouldn't it be a waste if that ship were destroyed?

Sorry....... warship terminology.

The primary battery is a single caliber of weapon, such as pretty much all post-Dreadnaught battleships.  Take the Iowas - 9 16" guns.  If they were non-Dreadnaught BBs, they would probably have an armament more like 4-6 16" guns and 6-9, oh, 12" guns.

The Deimos is a Dreadnought because it has one 'caliber' of weapon - TerSlashes.  An Orion would not be a Dreadnaught, because it has two - TerSlashes and BGreens.

Secondary weapons (such as quick firing 4-6" guns and AA guns) are not factored in to the 'all big gun' comment.  It's not literally all big guns.

[PSYCHO]

I base all my creations (although I havent posted much)as such for The FreeSpace Universe:
  Capital Ships
 > Freighters (Single Container Haulers)
 > Transports
 > Corsair (Clipper Type; Escort)
 > Cruiser(Battle, Science, Medical, Transport;StarLiner, Awacs)
 > Corvettes
 > Destroyers (Carriers, BattleShip)
 > Dreadnoughts (SuperDestroyers)
 > Juggernauts ( ProtoType One of a Kind Type)
        ......................8)  The Thing you all need to remember is that it is the FreeSpace Universe....... Even though it doesnt seem right to todays type of craft ..........8)
             PSYCHO 8)

[Shrike]

PS:  It's dreadnaughts.  

[Setekh]

Originally posted by Shrike
Sorry....... warship terminology.

The primary battery is a single caliber of weapon, such as pretty much all post-Dreadnaught battleships.  Take the Iowas - 9 16" guns.  If they were non-Dreadnaught BBs, they would probably have an armament more like 4-6 16" guns and 6-9, oh, 12" guns.

The Deimos is a Dreadnought because it has one 'caliber' of weapon - TerSlashes.  An Orion would not be a Dreadnaught, because it has two - TerSlashes and BGreens.

Secondary weapons (such as quick firing 4-6" guns and AA guns) are not factored in to the 'all big gun' comment.  It's not literally all big guns.

I see... So, is it dreadnought or dreadnaught?

[Bishop Gantry]

deppends if your american or british really

P.S Juggernaut

[Langy]

Dictionary.com saves the day once again!



Corvette:
1. A fast, lightly armed warship, smaller than a destroyer, often armed for antisubmarine operations.
2. An obsolete sailing warship, smaller than a frigate, usually armed with one tier of guns.

Frigate:
1. A warship, usually of 4,000 to 9,000 displacement tons, that is larger than a destroyer and smaller than a cruiser, used primarily for escort duty.
2. A high-speed, medium-sized sailing war vessel of the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries.
3. Archaic. A fast, light vessel, such as a sailboat.

Destroyer:
1. A small, fast, highly maneuverable warship armed with guns, torpedoes, depth charges, and guided missiles.
 
Cruiser:
1. One of a class of fast warships of medium tonnage with a long cruising radius and less armor and firepower than a battleship.

Battleship:
1. Any one of a class of warships of the largest size, carrying the greatest number of weapons and clad with the heaviest armor. Also called battlewagon.

Dreadnaught:
1. A battleship armed with six or more guns having calibers of 12 inches or more.

Juggernaut:
1. A massive inexorable force that seems to crush everything in its way



So there you go. Freespace is both right and wrong on some accounts (namely right with Corvettes, wrong with Cruisers, Frigates, and Destroyers).

[Shrike]

The frigate description there is out of date. Generally modern frigates are smaller than both cruisers and destroyers and are optimized for anti-submarine work.

[Corsair]

Methinks that someone has screwed around with the voting choices...

Yes they definitely do! We could have used some...what with all the Aeoleses destroyed...