[Blue Lion]

Everyone should be able to alter their text to fit a more personalized style if other people can do it. 

We already have titles to give out to people, why bother making another thing into a popularity contest?

[karajorma]

No one is supposed to read colored posts unless he wants to, right?

No one is forced to read threads on certain subjects. However once you choose to read a certain thread ignoring certain people can have the effect of making the thread much harder to read or understand.

It also opens you to criticism from people who then say "X already said that" when you are already ignoring X.

This thread is pathetically fake. Since when the Administration creates polls to see what the community thinks about a specific matter? I remember more than one Administrator claiming that HLP is not a democracy - how to explain this different tendence?

It's not a democracy. It's a benevolent dictatorship.

And a very important part of such a system is consulting the population affected whenever there is a decision that could be argued either way.

[Mobius]

No one is forced to read threads on certain subjects. However once you choose to read a certain thread ignoring certain people can have the effect of making the thread much harder to read or understand.

It also opens you to criticism from people who then say "X already said that" when you are already ignoring X.

[mobius]That's EXACTLY where I wanted the advanced ignore options subject to get to. Realizing how useful someone's post can be should lead people to wonder if ignoring a given member who makes contributes is a wise choice.

Accepting that person's style is a direct consequence. It's also a way to show a good level of mature behavior - it's too easy to force people to change habits on the internet, right?[/mobius]

And a very important part of such a system is consulting the population affected whenever there is a decision that could be argued either way.

[mobius]Link me to the poll or topic where the community agreed on letting the Administrators have avatars.

There are non-Administrators member with avatars, though.[/mobius]

[iamzack]

Mobius: I usually don't read your posts, but even so, I see that color and cringe.

[captain-custard]

i suggest we all use coloured posts and whatever style , that way within a week or so we will get bored of it then admins will get pissed off by trying to read it and then the option will be removed.....

[karajorma]

Link me to the poll or topic where the community agreed on letting the Administrators have avatars.

Nice try. Admins have been allowed avatars since before you or me joined. Probably since as long as the site has been running. When something is a condition of joining you don't have to justify it later. That's just the way the forum is. If you don't like it, tough. You can ask for it to change but you certainly can't demand it.

There are non-Administrators member with avatars, though.

Who?

[Knight Templar]

I tend to ignore discussions like this, they're locked in a matter of hours, but I'm posting here because the whole "colors" problem started because of me. My only mistake is being active so that a lot of members can see colored posts - no one complains about Black Wolf or Maeglamor simply because they're not as active as me.

Uhh, seeing as its a Mr. Furry thread, I doubt it's going to be censored. Also note,  nobody complains about Maeg or BW not because they don't post a lot, but because they aren't annoying. Your one fault isn't being active, it's being actively annoying. Since it's not  in-vogue to discriminate against nationalities here, picking on your pompous color / font scheme is the next best thing.

Other than this, I don't see the problem here. The whole "no colors" issue started off simply because I'm very active on these boards, check the time I spent online for confirmation.

see above.

And stop with the "people who use colors feel special" thing. It's not true, ask me or Black Wolf and find out. Most of the people who complained interpret the use of colors as a way to feel superior. Well, I think condemning the use of colors is a way to feel superior. How do you deal with this?

Why else would you change your font with every post then?

Everything started peacefully, without any problems. Me and Maeglamor got a tag, and we're using it. Administrators get avatars, and they use it. Some members have particular signatures, and they keep them. Most members have a particular behavior (which is a problem, unlike colors), and they keep it. I don't really understand why colors are a problem, really.

1) Artificial pretentiousness and pomp.

2) They're annoying when the poster is annoying. 

If you want HLP to be a better place, just cut the spam, play FreeSpace 2 SCP, FRED, mod, texture, contribute to the Wiki and so on. Removing the colors isn't going to change anything.

However, this is the best thing you've posted in a while. 

[Knight Templar]

All the individuality that we need should be kept in names and titles, like what we have now. Titles should remain under control of the admins only, so they mean something. Badges are earned, as well, to make them important. Signatures shouldn't be anything other than text, because images and colors attracts more attention than they deserve. I think the font used by posters should deserve no more attention than signatures.

and...no offense to mobius or black wolf, but I find the fact that they have persistantly coloured their posts...obnoxious.

Despite my declaration of arrogance on anyone other than vets using colors, I'm pretty sure this is NOT as big a deal as people make it out to be. It's really kind of ridiculous. The odd system of "member rewards" via "badges", post counts or titles is a weird quirk of HLP. I've never seen people so pre-occupied with  internet forum pixels anywhere else.

Also note, I don't know who you are, but Black Wolf has been here probably 8 times longer than you have. The fun thing about Maeg and BW's fonts is that they've always kind of described where they're from. Maeg's clearly Irish if you weren't sure. And BW is from Australia. How do I know? His text  is brown. See?

I wouldn't mind seeing the admin's posts coloured, though. It would greater remind us of their position as the leaders and administrators of this community. The fact that they have avatars is plenty fine, though coloured text would be even more powerful.

Uhh, no. These aren't the  Blizz forums.

I'm against the ones who think removing colors is going to be any useful.

This thread is pathetically fake. Since when the Administration creates polls to see what the community thinks about a specific matter? I remember more than one Administrator claiming that HLP is not a democracy - how to explain this different tendence?

I'd really like to know what the results of a "Allow Admins to use their own avatars?" poll would be like. The reasons why Admins have avatars are far more selfish than the misenterpreted reasons behind the usage of colors.

If you weren't sure what I meant when I said you're annoying, this is probably a good example. I'm pretty sure calling out forum admins on making a poll when they  don't need to isn't really a good idea.  If they didn't want people's opinions, they wouldn't have asked.


And for the record, I voted yes.

[captain-custard]

well ive decided to follow the pack and ill post in this colour from now on

[karajorma]

I wouldn't. Not if you're doing it deliberately to annoy the admins into banning colours. Yes it will work eventually, but it will probably get the admins annoyed at you in the process.

[Snail]

well ive decided to follow the pack and ill post in this colour from now on

I tried that myself, wasn't that fun.

[Mobius]

Link me to the poll or topic where the community agreed on letting the Administrators have avatars.

Nice try. Admins have been allowed avatars since before you or me joined. Probably since as long as the site has been running. When something is a condition of joining you don't have to justify it later. That's just the way the forum is. If you don't like it, tough. You can ask for it to change but you certainly can't demand it.

[mobius]You surely remember threads where members complained about the Administrators being the only ones with avatars. As far as I can see, things haven't changed.[/mobius]

There are non-Administrators member with avatars, though.

Who?

[mobius]One is here. If I remember well, there should be 2 more members with avatars.[/mobius]

Uhh, seeing as its a Mr. Furry thread, I doubt it's going to be censored. Also note,  nobody complains about Maeg or BW not because they don't post a lot, but because they aren't annoying. Your one fault isn't being active, it's being actively annoying. Since it's not  in-vogue to discriminate against nationalities here, picking on your pompous color / font scheme is the next best thing.

[mobius]Tell me what's annoying at me, it may be caused by lingual differences. I'm not denying, in fact, that my obsolete English and the way I use it may be annoying.

Anyway, if you consider the content of my posts annoying, removing the colors doesn't really change anything.[/mobius]

Why else would you change your font with every post then?

[mobius]All the [barbarian]*****ing[/barbarian] about me using colors started because of attempts to emulate it, either funny or serious.


P.S.

If using colors was a problem, you shouldn't have allowed me to use them in the first place just as sure as you shouldn't have allowed Black Wolf, Talon and Maeglamor to do that. All I got back then was the Rainbow Brite and Rainbow Not-So Brite titles and the Admins accepting my style. And now, someone is asking for a change? Be coherent, guys.[/mobius]

Also note, I don't know who you are, but Black Wolf has been here probably 8 times longer than you have. The fun thing about Maeg and BW's fonts is that they've always kind of described where they're from. Maeg's clearly Irish if you weren't sure. And BW is from Australia. How do I know? His text  is brown. See?

[mobius]Alright, that's pure nonsense.

1) I have been here for 3 years, so 8 times longer means 24 years. I'm pretty sure HLP wasn't on back then... 

2) So? Isn't lightblue one of colors used by Italians? Have you ever seen the Italian football team and, more in general, all Italian teams? What are you trying to say?[/mobius]

If you weren't sure what I meant when I said you're annoying, this is probably a good example. I'm pretty sure calling out forum admins on making a poll when they  don't need to isn't really a good idea.  If they didn't want people's opinions, they wouldn't have asked.


And for the record, I voted yes.

[mobius]In a civilized forum people can do things, but can get replies. Pointing me out as an annoying person is too easy when my only "fault" is caring about things and replying.

It's pretty much what happens on FS discussions - I carry on with them, people get bored and say I'm annoying. Too convenient.[/mobius]

[captain-custard]

well ive decided to follow the pack and ill post in this colour from now on

I tried that myself, wasn't that fun.

thanks gastropod

I wouldn't. Not if you're doing it deliberately to annoy the admins into banning colours. Yes it will work eventually, but it will probably get the admins annoyed at you in the process.

i know id get my ass kicked but if only 10 or so ppl started im sure it would cause an avalanche.....

just joking

[Topgun]

I used to type in teletype.
anyway, I still think that user should be able to turn off the custom fonts on individual users. that way, if there is one user that types in an annoying font, you can ignore just the font, not the post.
get what I mean?

[Snail]

Use the WAP.

[Mobius]

[mobius]Sure, and that would be the best compromising because forcing a change in habits is not polite at all. Just add an option that will show up[/mobius] [mobius] [mobius]at the beginning of my posts and[/mobius] [/mobius] [mobius]at the ends of my posts, without any colors. Same thing for Maeg and BW.[/mobius]

[Topgun]

What is WAP?
^It felt good doing that again^

[Snail]

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/wap/topic,62752.msg1241311/boardseen.html#new

[Mobius]

[mobius]A la old style HLP?[/mobius]

[Knight Templar]

There are non-Administrators member with avatars, though.

Who?

One is here. If I remember well, there should be 2 more members with avatars.

You realise he like, used to be an Admin or something,  and also hasn't posted since like, 2002.

Uhh, seeing as its a Mr. Furry thread, I doubt it's going to be censored. Also note,  nobody complains about Maeg or BW not because they don't post a lot, but because they aren't annoying. Your one fault isn't being active, it's being actively annoying. Since it's not  in-vogue to discriminate against nationalities here, picking on your pompous color / font scheme is the next best thing.

Tell me what's annoying at me, it may be caused by lingual differences. I'm not denying, in fact, that my obsolete English and the way I use it may be annoying.

Anyway, if you consider the content of my posts annoying, removing the colors doesn't really change anything.

I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with your broken English, and everything to do with the way you speak as if your word is of God.

Also note, I don't know who you are, but Black Wolf has been here probably 8 times longer than you have. The fun thing about Maeg and BW's fonts is that they've always kind of described where they're from. Maeg's clearly Irish if you weren't sure. And BW is from Australia. How do I know? His text  is brown. See?

Alright, that's pure nonsense.

1) I have been here for 3 years, so 8 times longer means 24 years. I'm pretty sure HLP wasn't on back then... 

2) So? Isn't lightblue one of colors used by Italians? Have you ever seen the Italian football team and, more in general, all Italian teams? What are you trying to say?

Again, I wasn't talking to you. However, you should figure out how to use and understand hyperbole in English. It'll help. And If you're Italian,  you should color your posts like Pizza, or Green/White/ Red. Everytime.