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Offline killer9

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Black screen in fred 2open.
on: October 27, 2009, 07:03:05 pm
Ok so I'm new at this thing, so forgive me if this sounds stupid, I used to play this back in the day messed around with fred some. But after I've seen whats been done by other people, my interest was re- kindled but one problem. I go into fred 2 open (i've even tried using the launcher that came with it) it open all the menues are there I even think I placed a few ships.  But the display screen is blank NO grids, no dots, no ship models... Grr... i tried turning things on and off in the menus no luck. and if I R click on the display screen the pop up menu comes up, but I still can't see anything. Maybe it's a vista problem maybe My computers to ****ty I don't know, but more then likely i'm just missing something, something I've been searching to find but have had no luck so now I'm asking.  If you know something tell me please.  The whole reason I want to use it is so I can make something with the ships I downloaded...  so any advice for that would be very much appreciated
 

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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #1 on: October 27, 2009, 07:06:05 pm
No-one ever listens to Zathras. Quite mad, they say. It is good that Zathras does not mind. He's even grown to like it. Oh yes. -Zathras
 

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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #2 on: October 27, 2009, 07:43:35 pm
that doesnt really answer my question I have fs2 open 3.6.10 and it came with fred 2 and the launcher and if I remember right media vp or something like that already:confused:is there something there I need to to download that I don't have already.
 

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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #3 on: October 27, 2009, 07:48:09 pm
Do you have FS2 installed?  Are you running the FRED2_Open 3.6.10 exe or just the FRED2 one?  the FRED2 is the old retail one. 

Do you have show grid turned on in the view options?
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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #4 on: October 27, 2009, 07:57:17 pm
running fred 2 open yeah i have freespace2 retail i got it at gog because my second disk was cracked and i couldn't reinstall the old school way.
 

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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #5 on: October 27, 2009, 07:59:07 pm
Make sure everything's checked under 'view' (well, everything relevant - ship models and grid and stuff.) Select the Ulysses in the ship menu, hold down left ctrl, left-click a few times.
 

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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #6 on: October 27, 2009, 08:16:32 pm
did that I honestly would kill just to get the grid, I'm familiar with fred at least regular fred. I even tried creating a shortcut and running it in xp compatibility mode just in case
 

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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 08:22:41 pm
do I have to use the launcher for fred open or is that an unneccesary step i'm taking
 

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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #8 on: October 27, 2009, 08:29:53 pm
Not necessary.
 

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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #9 on: October 27, 2009, 08:38:33 pm
it really sux to have a toy I can't play with.
 

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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #10 on: October 27, 2009, 09:15:56 pm
Well, hrm. Could you run a debug build of FRED, then post the FS2open log file from your /FreeSpace2/data folder?

(I assume FRED generates debug logs...)
 

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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #11 on: October 28, 2009, 04:51:55 am
It does. It's called fs2_open.log, and will be in the data folder, as usual.
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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #12 on: October 28, 2009, 05:11:47 pm
I opened it in fred debug still no luck it didn't show the dialog box. I did descover I have the ability to place and edit ships, they still don't appear on screen but the mouse icon detects them and will bring up the pop up menu, but the models and grid and everything else is non existant cant even get dots.  this is the text out the fs2_open file you told me about, I don't know if it has anything, because everything works but the images. But if it helps you help me, then i'm willing to try anything...

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Passed cmdline options:
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Building file index...
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\00-raynor.vp' with a checksum of 0x2b4cd582
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa11d56f1
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd77da83a
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x86920b82
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x705e8d71
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d
Searching root 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\' ... 23 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\00-raynor.vp' ... 0 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' ... 1337 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\stu_fs2.vp' ... 2355 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango1_fs2.vp' ... 32 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango2_fs2.vp' ... 15 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango3_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files
Found 11 roots and 7018 files.
Setting language to English
==========================================================================
DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
==========================================================================
Initializing OpenAL...
  Using 'Generic Software' as OpenAL sound device...
  OpenAL Vendor     : Creative Labs Inc.
  OpenAL Renderer   : Software
  OpenAL Version    : 1.1

... OpenAL successfully initialized!
Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 640x480 with 32-bit color...
  Initializing WGL...
  Requested WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
  Actual WGL Video values    = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
  OpenGL Vendor     : Intel
  OpenGL Renderer   : Intel 945GM
  OpenGL Version    : 1.4.0 - Build 7.14.10.1214

  Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc".
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  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object".
  Unable to find extension "GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap".
  Unable to find extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object".
  Unable to find extension "GL_NV_texture_rectangle".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias".
  Unable to find extension "NV_point_sprite".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_shading_language_100".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_shader_objects".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_vertex_shader".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ATI_shader_texture_lod".
  Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT".

!!DEBUG!! OpenGL Errors this frame: 1
  Max texture units: 8 (8)
  Max elements vertices: 1024
  Max elements indices: 1024
  Max texture size: 2048x2048
  Can use compressed textures: YES
  Texture compression available: YES
  Using trilinear texture filter.
... OpenGL init is complete!
Size of bitmap info = 705 KB
Size of bitmap extra info = 40 bytes
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GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
Loading palette gamepalette1-01
No cached palette file
Wokka!  Error opening file (armor.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
Freeing all existing models...
Error reading registry key 'RegisteredOwner'
Freeing all existing models...
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
Loading palette gamepalette1-01
Loading model 'fighter01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'fighter01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xd17abc7a, IBX checksum: 0x7093cbe9 -- "fighter01.pof"
Allocating space for at least 5 new ship subsystems ...  a total of 200 is now available (5 in-use).
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Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
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Resetting dynamic tree node limit from 0 to 0...
Resetting dynamic tree node limit from 0 to 0...
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Error reading registry key 'RegisteredOwner'
Freeing all existing models...
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
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Loading model 'fighter01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'fighter01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xd17abc7a, IBX checksum: 0x7093cbe9 -- "fighter01.pof"
Allocating space for at least 5 new ship subsystems ...  a total of 200 is now available (5 in-use).
Resetting dynamic tree node limit from 0 to 0...
Resetting dynamic tree node limit from 0 to 0...
Freeing all existing models...
Error reading registry key 'RegisteredOwner'
Freeing all existing models...
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
Loading palette gamepalette1-01
Loading model 'fighter01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'fighter01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xd17abc7a, IBX checksum: 0x7093cbe9 -- "fighter01.pof"
Allocating space for at least 5 new ship subsystems ...  a total of 200 is now available (5 in-use).
Freeing all existing models...

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« Last Edit: October 28, 2009, 06:01:09 pm by The E »
 

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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #13 on: October 28, 2009, 05:13:57 pm
Your graphics card isn't great, but that shouldn't matter.

"Found root pack 'C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2\00-raynor.vp' with a checksum of 0x2b4cd582" - get that out of there. You should only have retail files in your root directory.

Try moving the whole directory to C:\Games\FreeSpace 2.
 

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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #14 on: October 28, 2009, 06:04:52 pm
removed the incriminating file still no luck though still doing the same thing anything else i can do?
 

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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #15 on: October 28, 2009, 06:06:12 pm
Nothing in there jumps out screaming wrongness to me....

That being said, are the drivers for your 3d card up to date?

Assuming you're running with Aero enabled, try this: If you right-click on the FRED2_Open executable, go to the properties menu, and select "Disable Desktop composition" in the compatibility options, does that help?
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Re: Black screen in fred 2open.
Reply #16 on: October 28, 2009, 06:21:24 pm
Yes your the man I could kiss you but i'm not going to... don't want to give you the wrong idea *cough* but thanks your cool in my book.
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