[c914]

My old nightmare returns... i'm to stubborn to leave it as it were, also Luis Dias take right from my nose Rakshasa

Here is first view of brand new Cain:


Few details about this project:
- i've get rid of original textures
- it will be UV maped
- arms will be destroyable subobjects with beautiful debris sicked to main hull ^^
- and most important: Lilith will be a different model.

 I was thinking about  removeing one turret which is at back of top arm and then place 2 on centrer of this arm. Then ship had 6 turrets, 2 on each arm in same place. What you think about this?

[The E]

  Good job there. Looks beautiful. Can't wait to blow it up.

[Snail]

I'm not a liking the triangular girders at all. Those weren't on the original maps.

I was thinking about  removeing one turret which is at back of top arm and then place 2 on centrer of this arm. Then ship had 6 turrets, 2 on each arm in same place. What you think about this?

Don't, or else it won't go into the MediaVPs.

[Commander Zane]

Oh...my...god...
Do finish this, it's amazing.

[Rodo]

yeah good work!

[Commander Zane]

Something I noticed, those recessions make placment of the missile launchers seem improbable, you have a plan to work around that?

[Snail]

I'm still not liking the girders.

[BlackDove]

I think it's awesome. Don't listen to the haters.

[Snail]

I think it's awesome. Don't listen to the haters.

There's can be only one hater.

And he hates the girders.

[c914]

Don't, or else it won't go into the MediaVPs.

Why? Maybe some explains why this strange and mist pointed placement of turrets should be saved?

those recessions make placment of the missile launchers seem improbable

I'll place missile lunches on "eyes".

[Snail]

Why? Maybe some explains why this strange and mist pointed placement of turrets should be saved?

Because if you place the turrets elsewhere or add more turrets, the MediaVP people won't use it as it breaks mission balance.

And still no likey girders.

DONT HURT ME

[Commander Zane]

I think it's awesome. Don't listen to the haters.

There's can be only one hater.

And he hates the girders.

Looks fine to me, the Ravana and Demon have them also, and it makes the Cain look less "armored."

One Shivan Light Laser? Breaking balance?

[The E]

Yes.

[c914]

Now that's  the point! Personal i don't think that one turret would dealt that amount of damage to mission balance. Let the FREDers speak up.

And still no likey girders.

DONT HURT ME

Ask your psychologist about them... maybe together you will work this thru this phobia

[Commander Zane]

It's a Canon issue, best to leave the armament as it is.
Another thing I noticed, will there be the spikes on the nose or is that being left for the Lilith (If that's going to be an altered model)?

[The E]

It's not really a FREDer reason. It's a FSU policy issue. With the mediavps, the retail campaign should look better, but feel and play exactly the same.

[c914]

Another good point! So there will be 2 version's of Cain ^^

I noticed, will there be the spikes on the nose or is that being left for the Lilith

Nose and front bottom pant isn't yet finished.

[Commander Zane]

It's not really a FREDer reason. It's a FSU policy issue. With the mediavps, the retail campaign should look better, but feel and play exactly the same.

Well if you can now fly into fighterbays of Destroyers that you normally couldn't because of invisible hitboxes (Orion, Hecate)...

[The E]

Yeah, but does being there convey some tangible benefit?

[Commander Zane]

It's not playing "exactly" the same.