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Offline High Max

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But medicine isn't just about pills and operations. Where do you think knowledge of those "healthy lifestyles" came from?

Regarding the most of what you said, any healthy adult should be able to accomplish those tasks. Except the foot behind the head thing. That's just freaky.  :P

I can do more funny positions than just that. I think it was funny that one time in the gym when I was sitting oddly stretching and 2 heavier men walked in and I heard them say from a distance "he's flexible" :D :D and I got the impression they were surprised. Also, normally, people would have to have no fat or muscle to be that flexible.

Look at the bright side though. If I continue to maintain flexibility and balance when standing with one limb with different positions, as well as use of coodination and it will help when I get old.

Achieving total balance in abilities and strengths physically and mentally is the way to achieve the ultimate people who would need the least amount of help from others, even as the person ages. It saves a lot of resourses, boosts confidence, longevity, being able to do almost all on your own without aid from others, etc, when combining the abilities all together. One ability and area of strength doesn't do much good if one cannot combine it with other abilities. Kind of like having brute strength doesn't do much good if one doesn't have brains or speed, stamina, and inner strength to combine it with.

If one can become like that, one need not have health care, or maybe just have some just incase of an accident since it is good to be safe than sorry and be careful and always prepare for the worst, which is why pessimists seem smarter and wiser than optimists.

Speaking of, It's hard to do the Matrix pose of bending the back but I can do it pretty well. But I talked about myself again, but only because you said "Except the foot behind the head thing. That's just freaky.  :P"

Time for bed now. I have work to do tomorrow and I should break that habit of staying up too late pretty much every night and sleeping too late.
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Flexibility isn't as hard to achieve as most people think. A middle-aged man (pick up your stereotypes here) could do the splits with sufficient training over the course of a few months. I mean, hell, I'm not that flexible, but after 8 weeks of karate, I could fully extend my legs and touch my forehead to my knees.

Anyway, lucky you on being wealthy and educated enough to cut things out of your diet that are harmful. Many, many people don't know squat about their food or where it comes from, and/or can't afford the more expensive organic crap.
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If one can become like that, one need not have health care, or maybe just have some just incase of an accident since it is good to be safe than sorry and be careful and always prepare for the worst, which is why pessimists seem smarter and wiser than optimists.


Some of that is just common sense, and some of it is luck. There are many ailments that frankly we have no control over, and more than a few are because of genetic predisposition.
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Offline Janos

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And this is where it falls apart.

The Liberals(bleeding hearts, eco-nuts, whatever) see this as fundamentally about human rights, which should be guaranteed at all costs.  The Conservatives see this as fundamentally about freedom, or more accurately the absconding thereof by an evermore larger and invasive Federal Government.

You just managed to position human rights against freedom, then continue on with Federal Government. You should really make a course: "How to inject weasel words into ordinary debate and explain to people how them dying in the street is real freedom."

Have you stopped beating your wife yet, by the way?
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Offline High Max

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Anyway, lucky you on being wealthy and educated enough to cut things out of your diet that are harmful. Many, many people don't know squat about their food or where it comes from, and/or can't afford the more expensive organic crap.

I'm not wealthy and I don't want to be. It's not so much about how much money you have, it's how you use it. I don't buy organic stuff. I just be resourceful and do some research online. If one buys normal stuff, it's best to wash off the pesticides really well. I still live on my family's property, but I buy my own food and usually eat only my own food and have my own small one room apartment next to the garage. My diet isn't my family's diet.

@Kosh: I was reading that scientists were finding that a healthy lifestyle can actually shut off bad genes. Do you feel that is true? It probably isn't in a lot of cases though.
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Offline Kosh

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@Kosh: I was reading that scientists were finding that a healthy lifestyle can actually shut off bad genes. Is that true?


Where?
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline High Max

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Can't remember. Maybe here somewhere: http://www.scientificamerican.com/.

I don't think that is the site, but maybe a search here might turn up something, or I could google it.

Edit: I found something on it here just now: http://www.examiner.com/x-7160-Sacramento-Nutrition-Examiner~y2009m4d14-How-to-override-your-bad-genes-with-food. There are no doubt more sites on it if I look harder.
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The Liberals(bleeding hearts, eco-nuts, whatever) see this as fundamentally about human rights, which should be guaranteed at all costs.  The Conservatives see this as fundamentally about freedom, or more accurately the absconding thereof by an evermore larger and invasive Federal Government.

You just managed to position human rights against freedom...

Every time we let a government force the "right thing" to happen, we sacrifice some of our personal freedom. That's the whole point of having a government: we trade some of our freedom for things like security (both physical in in terms of human rights) and a sense of justice. See John Locke and the Social Contract. A lot of political conflicts in the U.S. today, IMHO, can be reduced to people disagreeing over whether Government Policy X is worth sacrificing the freedom it costs (including the healthcare debate).

 

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I really don't understand people who think the government should decide which legally capable adults should be allowed to enter into a contract together, but think the government shouldn't pay for healthcare. :P

Of course, my favorite quote from the whole thing has come from a town hall meeting "Keep your government hands off my Medicare!"
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Of course, my favorite quote from the whole thing has come from a town hall meeting "Keep your government hands off my Medicare!"

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Where's Jean-Luc when you need him?

 

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I think that deserves a double facepalm...

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I think that deserves a double facepalm...
What episode is that one from, I can name the episode in seconds but that's not ringing any bells.
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The photoshopping episode.
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Offline Turambar

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if i had photoshopped it, i would have normalized their skin tones.
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Yup, it's a photoshop, though, not one of mine, just grabbed it from Google ;)

 

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"STUPID TRANSPORTATION TAXES!" *drives on public roads, is idiot*


Of course, my favorite quote from the whole thing has come from a town hall meeting "Keep your government hands off my Medicare!"

God bless America.  :cool:

 

Offline High Max

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vitamins are protiens
wat
I'll look it up again and see if it said that or it is my own wording to be sure. I thought when I looked it up before about a few months ago, it said proteins...........

vitamin  
A noun
 1  vitamin
 
   any of a group of organic substances essential in small quantities to normal metabolism

Ok, this is what they are: http://www.howstuffworks.com/question129.htm
They appear to be just different molecules that your cells need, but I must have thought they were just different types of proteins since they have to do with emzymes. They actually appear to be different numbers of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen atoms bound together. Like water and carbon but much more complex than just carbon and water since the molecular numbers are higher in the chart on this website in the example box.
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Offline blackhole

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There is, of course, the possibility that Americans are just that f*cking stupid.

 

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There is, of course, the possibility that humans are just that f*cking stupid.
Fixed your scope there.