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Offline Marcov

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Re: Sci-Fic Crossover Pics
The Freespace 2 Supernova devouring everything...

With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

Offline The E

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Okay, I'm trying to be constructive here, but that is just ugly.The discoloration on the DS2 is truly weird, the Executor's scale is way off, and you need some trasparency. What program do you use to make these?
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Offline General Battuta

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Do not mind the critique, you will doubtless extract new skillz from The_E's expertise.

 
Re: Sci-Fic Crossover Pics
The Freespace 2 Supernova devouring everything...


Just don't start popping popcorn in a metal container in a microwave at the same time... don't want to fancy time traveling to occur LOL
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That wouldn't be so bad.  The worst that could happen would be that you end up being your own grandfather.
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Offline Aardwolf

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Okay, I'm trying to be constructive here, but that is just ugly.The discoloration on the DS2 is truly weird, the Executor's scale is way off, and you need some trasparency. What program do you use to make these?

Also the number of stars in the 'censored' text implies that he's saying "Oh my b*tch Emperor" ...

 

Offline esarai

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Closely kept secret: there is no such fluff. The movies give them a terminal damage output in the kiloton range. :P

As I recall, someone here on HLP did a few calculations on the power of FS's beam cannons, and came up with a result that suggests hitting any point on a planet with one would cause an explosion akin to setting off a nuclear bomb in the megaton range.  I've never seen a turbolaser do that. 

Standard armament of FS2-era warships > standard armament of SW movie-era Star Destroyers.

Could someone hunt down those beam weapon power numbers?
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Offline Aardwolf

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As I recall, someone here on HLP did a few calculations on the power of FS's beam cannons, and came up with a result that suggests hitting any point on a planet with one would cause an explosion akin to setting off a nuclear bomb in the megaton range.  I've never seen a turbolaser do that.

What were the calculations based on? Considering that HP is such an incredible simplification of how damage works, I personally think it might be better to base numbers on the penetrative ability, or the 'beam whack' effect.

For the first, the Lucifer-Orion shot in the intro cutscene, although not exactly true to FS1, provides a nice view of how long it takes for the beam to burn through the ship and burst through the other side. Also, the cbanim showing the ambush of the GTC Vigilant might be useful.

For the second, it's a bit hard considering that the beam whack (at least in retail) was never calculated in a reasonable manner. Also, the fact that a beam is (hypothetically) hottest/most dense/most energetic at the center might make that harder to come up with reliable numbers.

Another thing is the FS1 cbanim of the Lucifer bombarding Vasuda Prime; in that, there definitely is a heck of a big beam hitting the planet, obviously bigger than anything you see in-game.

Really, there's a lot of ways you might come up with numbers for that, and it's silly to argue about crossovers, etc. But, from a FreeSpace campaign/story-writer's point of view, it might be a nice means of coming up with 'subtle' strategies and tactics.

 

Offline Liberator

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Well, the thing about the giant beam is that there will dispersion, no matter how good the confinement field is, a particle beam of that power is going to disperse as it travels from the emitter.
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Offline NGTM-1R

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What were the calculations based on? Considering that HP is such an incredible simplification of how damage works, I personally think it might be better to base numbers on the penetrative ability, or the 'beam whack' effect.

Comparative damage due to known strength I expect; probably an FS1 bomb, for which we have hard data. If you google "1500 Megatons" you come up with really scary stuff like "Four Mile Crater".

The Harbinger is 5000 megatons, which might be enough to punch into the mantle of the planet in some places(!). A BFRed inflicts greater terminal damage than a Harbinger. (Though most beams do not, quite.) As most sane energy weapon designs do their damage from the explosive vaporization of the targeted material under a series of rapid pulses, and there is every reason to believe FS beams fall into this category (or at least straight-firing beams) the calculations are most likely sound.
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Offline Aardwolf

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Yeah, I wouldn't go by hitpoints unless I had to. For one thing, damage to ships from various weapons doesn't necessarily increase proportionally to how much damage the same weapon would do IRL to an atmosphere, or to the stated kiloton values from FS1.

 

Offline Marcov

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Wait, considering the BFRed would inflict more than 5000 megatons of force, then could it blast an entire city? It couldn't even tear apart a Hecate? Or do the ships in Freespace have immensely technologically-advanced shields, making them as tough as clusters, clusters, and clusters of skyscrapers??
« Last Edit: October 11, 2009, 10:29:13 pm by Marcov »
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

Offline Liberator

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The Deimos tech room suggests that it has a new type of molybdenum armor plating.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: Sci-Fic Crossover Pics
Wait, considering the BFRed would inflict more than 5000 megatons of force, then could it blast an entire city? It couldn't even tear apart a Hecate? Or do the ships in Freespace have immensely technologically-advanced shields, making them as tough as clusters, clusters, and clusters of skyscrapers??

Skyscrapers are relatively fragile. FS ships are presumed to be multiply-redundant and extremely heavily compartmented, with at least a hundred meters of sacrificial compartmenting wrapped around a central box of nearly solid armor plate that holds the crew, plus exterior armor.

This does not explain unshielded fighters, but...
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Offline TrashMan

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HP for Freespace makes no sense.
Stated numbers for SW make no sense.

Just look at ships attacking things.

What we do know:
- ships in Star Wars pummel eachother with turbolasers for quite a while
- ship in FS2 don't survive for long under beam fire

Beamz >> turbolasers
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Offline General Battuta

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Yeah, no. Versus arguments are inherently foolhardy since there's just no way to compare. Too many floating variables.

SW ships are shielded, for one.

 

Offline Commander Zane

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FS2 beamz pierce shields. :P

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Offline General Battuta

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We have no idea whether it's true because they're different universes. So let's just drop this asinine turn of conversation, or take it to SpaceBattles if you really give a crap.

 

Offline Commander Zane

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I know. :P We still don't know if beam weapons would be truly capable of penetrating Lucy's surface shields.

 

Offline Marcov

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I never trusted cutscenes...they just violate in-game laws  :doubt:
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI