[Scotty]

When we leave Afghanistan he can have a prize.  Or Iraq.  Or stop some war SOMEWHERE.

No-one has won in Afghanistan.  Ever.  Time to go.

[stuart133]

No-one has won in Afghanistan.  Ever.  Time to go.

Yeah, the irony in Afghanistan is rather acute. Looking at the history of all this we see the Russians invade, the Americans give support to the Mujahideen, (The reason was to give Russia its Vietnam, IMO that seems kinda fair) the Russians pull out and the Taliban take over. Then the Americans come in after 9/11, guns blazing and all the support that they gave to the Mujahideen was forgotten.

But also the concept of a Nobel peace prize is somewhat contradictory in itself, this is the man who gave us many of today's most used explosives, giving rise to a whole new generation of weaponry.

[The E]

But also the concept of a Nobel peace prize is somewhat contradictory in itself, this is the man who gave us many of today's most used explosives, giving rise to a whole new generation of weaponry.

Not as contradictory as you may think.

[Scotty]

Stuart:  You also forgot the Chinese and the Mongols.  NO-ONE has ever won in Afghanistan, and there's been fighting there for the last thousand years.

[Herra Tohtori]

No-one has won in Afghanistan.  Ever.  Time to go.

Yeah, the irony in Afghanistan is rather acute. Looking at the history of all this we see the Median Empire, Persian Empire, Alexander the Great, the Seleucids, the Mauryan Empire, Sunga Dynasty, Greco-Bactrians, Indo-Greeks, Indo-Scythians, Parthian Empire, Indo-Parthians, Kushan Empire, Sassanids, Kidarite Huns, Hepthalites, Arabs, Turks, Mongols, British and the Russians invade, the Americans give support to the Mujahideen, (The reason was to give Russia its Vietnam, IMO that seems kinda fair) the Russians pull out and the Taliban take over. Then the Americans come in after 9/11, guns blazing and all the support that they gave to the Mujahideen was forgotten.

But also the concept of a Nobel peace prize is somewhat contradictory in itself, this is the man who gave us many of today's most used explosives, giving rise to a whole new generation of weaponry.

Fix'd for the great justice.

[stuart133]

Stuart:  You also forgot the Chinese and the Mongols.  NOONE has ever won in Afghanistan, and there's been fighting there for the last thousand years.

Yeah it's true. I was really just looking at the irony of the current situation (5000 word essay on it  ) but yeah I feel truly saddened to see our brave soldiers dying every day out there.
The worst part is that my CCF RSM was in the regiment that is currently out there, so I have met some of the guys who are out there right now, men who may never come home again. 

[Ford Prefect]

This does strike me as premature, but I think it will be worth it just to see the new shades of red and purple on conservatives' faces.

[BloodEagle]

No-one has won in Afghanistan.  Ever.  Time to go.

Yeah, the irony in Afghanistan is rather acute. Looking at the history of all this we see the Median Empire, Persian Empire, Alexander the Great, the Seleucids, the Mauryan Empire, Sunga Dynasty, Greco-Bactrians, Indo-Greeks, Indo-Scythians, Parthian Empire, Indo-Parthians, Kushan Empire, Sassanids, Kidarite Huns, Hepthalites, Arabs, Turks, Mongols, British and the Russians invade, the Americans give support to the Mujahideen, (The reason was to give Russia its Vietnam, IMO that seems kinda fair) the Russians pull out and the Taliban take over. Then the Americans come in after 9/11, guns blazing and all the support that they gave to the Mujahideen was forgotten.

But also the concept of a Nobel peace prize is somewhat contradictory in itself, this is the man who gave us many of today's most used explosives, giving rise to a whole new generation of weaponry.

Fix'd for the great justice.

Alexander the Great vs. the U.S.?

Pretty sure that that never happened. .... Yeah. Pretty sure. 

[colecampbell666]

NOONE has ever won in Afghanistan

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Noone

I honestly think that they should've waited a year or 4, at least until he did something. He hasn't had time to accomplish, and there are other people who have accomplished more.

Interesting site as well:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

[Scotty]

*facepalm*

Post fixed, hyphen added.

Point still stands, no-one wins in Afghanistan.

[Akalabeth Angel]

This guy called it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ct-na7xFs

[StarSlayer]

Stuart:  You also forgot the Chinese and the Mongols.  NO-ONE has ever won in Afghanistan, and there's been fighting there for the last thousand years.

I thought Genghis Khan ripped through that whole region salting the earth, poisoning the wells and killing everyone taller then an ox cart axle in 1219?  He obliterated a fairly powerful Muslim kingdom in a fashion that the region still hasn't really recovered.

[Thaeris]

KAHN!!!

[Ioustinos]

I guess the Nobel Committee forgot about Obama's stance on indefinite (and preventative) detention, and his choice not to prosecute those who used torture.  I don't exactly know how they judge who should win the prize, but those seem to be real turn offs for me.

[peterv]

I guess the Nobel Committee forgot about Obama's stance on indefinite (and preventative) detention, and his choice not to prosecute those who used torture

And why exactly do you guess someting like that? 

[TrashMan]

This is joke, right?

Is there a nobel prize giveaway I'm not aware off? What, they had too many in stock and now everything must go?
Where's the line? I gotta get me one too.

[Grizzly]

Well, the Nobel peace price can not be awarded if the nominee is dead... I guess they wanted to give it him now just in case he gets shot somewhere along the way.

[Mika]

Well, it is probably going to a right man, but the nomination seems little bit early.

[Kosh]

ok, so we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan, it looks like we might possibly be going into Iran before his term is up, the US is even more divided now that it was under Bush

Cite please?

The culture war is a myth.

It seems to be more divided than it was because the GOP went bat**** loco after Obama's victory.

We are actually pretty unified as a country.

I recall reading about an online poll  about whether or not Obama should be killed. I don't remember that under the last 2 presidents. This is most divided the country has been for a generation.

[Blue Lion]

ok, so we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan, it looks like we might possibly be going into Iran before his term is up, the US is even more divided now that it was under Bush

Cite please?

The culture war is a myth.

You do know that only about 15-20% of the country identify as GOP, right?