[Macfie]

At least we can count on the accurate news coverage from the news services.  AP reported that a single gun was used.  A 5.7 cal. automatic pistol.  Its a wonder he was able to kill any one since that would be a .057" bullet.  He probably used pencil lead to reload.

[Turambar]

so one mental health worker killed a bunch of professional soldiers with a single pistol?

more details as we get them.

[Janos]

At least we can count on the accurate news coverage from the news services.  AP reported that a single gun was used.  A 5.7 cal. automatic pistol.  Its a wonder he was able to kill any one since that would be a .057" bullet.  He probably used pencil lead to reload.

Gauss flechettes

[Nuclear1]

It has begun.

Fox news are claiming he shouted 'Allah Akbar' before opening fire, something unconfirmed by any other news outlet, or the base, and they are claiming he made radical Internet postings when even the FBI said that are still trying to confirm they are the same person...

Good old witch-burning Fox...

Not surprised...

[Colonol Dekker]

Condolences of course to those in need.
 
No other comments from me.

[redsniper]

At least we can count on the accurate news coverage from the news services.  AP reported that a single gun was used.  A 5.7 cal. automatic pistol.  Its a wonder he was able to kill any one since that would be a .057" bullet.  He probably used pencil lead to reload.

Ugh, yeah. It was a Five-seveN I heard. That's 5.7 millimeters Associated Press.

[Bobboau]

it's fun watching all the non-Americans flipping out about how we are going to open internment camps.
all the right is going to do is use this as justification for using religion as part of the screening process. the most they will get is using it as a talking point toward that end. this will do nothing but make average Americans more skeptical of people who hold to academic world views, bias against Muslims will not go up much (because it's already about as high as it's going to get). now there is the possibility that in a country of 300 million this might cause one or two morons who were going to do something at some point to act now, but other than that this situation will be all but forgotten within the next two months. unless there does turn out to be some connection to some terrorist group, but that doesn't seem likely.

[DeepSpace9er]

If it is indeed true that he shouted Allah Ackbar while he was shooting people up, I think it underscores the danger of religious ideology. Like John Lenon said "Imagine no religion."

[Mongoose]

If it is indeed true that he shouted Allah Ackbar while he was shooting people up, I think it underscores the danger of religious ideology. Like John Lenon said "Imagine no religion."

Yes, because one wacko with obvious underlying psychological issues should be held as representative of every religious person on the planet!  Brilliant, Watson!

[General Battuta]

Being a homicidal loon can arise from ideology of any sort.

[iamzack]

You know what? Just to be safe, I'm not teasing Turambar about being a dirty muzzie towelhead sandNWORD anymore.

[General Battuta]

I am not entirely comfortable with that.

[iamzack]

Yeah, I will prolly forget in like two hours and check his backpack for water bottle bombs.

[General Battuta]

I mean with the use of that speech.

But then I think maybe I'm just being overly anal and can't decide whether to yell at you. I want to avoid double standards here.

[iamzack]

I dont generally speaking. I get a little twinge in my neck whenever I use a racial slur. :[

[NGTM-1R]

I don't think his ideology provided anything but an excuse, to be honest. He was not by all reports a particularly devout or even practicing Muslim. As a pyschatrist working for the military, and apparently a good one considering he's not a lieutenant attached to a divisional medical staff but a major working at the primary center for deploying soldiers, his workload would have been considerably more demanding than is usually expected of such people. A great deal rides on your success or failure when you minster to the mental health of people with guns, and you will be assigned more difficult work based on your apparent competence. Perhaps he could not handle the load and lost it himself; perhaps he could not stand the thought of experiencing what damaged so many of those who came before him; perhaps he was damaged in turn, his faith in humanity lost by his contact with the depths it can sink to. None of these things are exactly unknown with pyschatric professionals.

[Nuclear1]

I would not want to a Muslim living anywhere near a red county right now, especially in the breeding-ground of vigilantes that is Texas.

This is an ignorant statement.  

Well, I was born in Indiana, lived most of my life there, lived outside Raleigh for two years, lived in San Angelo and San Antonio for a year, and now I live outside Omaha.   Trust me, there are nuts everywhere, but they're just so much more vocal and violent in the red states.

Hate crimes against Middle Easterners and those perceived to be Middle Eastern or Muslim went up drastically after 9/11, from only barely 400 being in reported in 2001 before the attacks, to nearly 2000 in 2005.  Texas, Virginia, and Florida combined accounted for 21% of those hate crimes.  

So when a man of Middle Eastern heritage goes off on a rampage and kills 13 people, several of them soldiers, in the heart of Texas, and you have bull**** news organizations like Fox bent on twisting the story to make it seem like it's the beginning of a new wave of terrorist attacks on American soil, what the **** do you think is going to happen?!  People actually believe the **** they say on there!  People with guns!  People with racist tendencies!  

So stop this goddamn kneejerk defense of the red states who need no defending and start worrying about the Americans who are going to have to suffer the backlash of this one nutjob at the hands of their fellow citizens!

[Bobboau]

"...ks, to nearly .  Tex..."

you forgot something I think.

[Nuclear1]

Whoops, looks like I did.  Edited.  Thanks for the catch.

[codedog]

I have used the argument that 'the percentage of nerds who live in their parents cellar is probably the same as the percentage of Texans who live in a gun-lined shelter, i.e. far, far less than people seem to think' so I can accept that there was over-stereotyping there, hope no offense was taken at that

None taken.  It would take something a little more than that to offend me.   
You should go down to Austin.  You might enjoy it. 

Well, I was born in Indiana, lived most of my life there, lived outside Raleigh for two years, lived in San Angelo and San Antonio for a year, and now I live outside Omaha.   Trust me, there are nuts everywhere, but they're just so much more vocal and violent in the red states.

Hate crimes against Middle Easterners and those perceived to be Middle Eastern or Muslim went up drastically after 9/11, from only barely 400 being in reported in 2001 before the attacks, to nearly .  Texas, Virginia, and Florida combined accounted for 21% of those hate crimes. 

So when a man of Middle Eastern heritage goes off on a rampage and kills 13 people, several of them soldiers, in the heart of Texas, and you have bull**** news organizations like Fox bent on twisting the story to make it seem like it's the beginning of a new wave of terrorist attacks on American soil, what the **** do you think is going to happen?!  People actually believe the **** they say on there!  People with guns!  People with racist tendencies! 

So stop this goddamn kneejerk defense of the red states who need no defending and start worrying about the Americans who are going to have to suffer the backlash of this one nutjob at the hands of their fellow citizens!

As you stated.  There are nuts everywhere.  I am not defending a "red" state out of a knee-jerk reaction.  You made an ignorant remark about my home. 

"It also found that 10 states accounted for nearly four out of five civil rights-related complaints. In descending order, they were California (19 percent); Illinois (14 percent); New York (9 percent); Texas (8 percent); Virginia (7 percent); Florida (6 percent); District of Columbia (5 percent); Maryland (4 percent); Ohio and New Jersey (4 percent)."

California is not a "red" state.  It is the most populated state followed by Texas, New York, Florida, and Illinois to finish up the top five.  It would be only natural to see California, Texas, and New York to be in the top three based on number of incidents because they have more population.   Instead Texas is at number 4.  I would be most concerned with DC out of those ten.  If you want to skew numbers and make political statements based off your article then one could say.  California, New York, and Illinois make up 42%.