[mxlm]

Actually, bats, that doesn't address the concernn.

Spoiler:

If you, the imaginary CIA agent, weren't aware that they knew you were an agent, you would have character incentive to open fire. If you were aware, well, you'd have incentive to, like, not stroll along with them and watch or participate.

So I vote 'still stupid'  

[General Battuta]

Spoiler:

No, your CIA agent could easily be unable or unwilling to open fire even if it compromised his mission - he is, after all, a human being. You can open fire if you want (though I can't imagine your training would support that.)

[TrashMan]

Yup, I agree with Batutta here. You don't shoot your own civilians (or any civilians for that matter).
As a soldier/agent, your job is to protect them.
Their lives >>> your cover

[Unknown Target]

Isn't the mission of the CIA guy to like...stop these sorts of attacks? Or what?

[Colonol Dekker]

Not saying.
 
Someone said three hours a few posts up. It certainly took me longer.
 
It's well worth a purchase. Bloody brilliant. Gulag and the Ranger precursors to second sun are buh-rilliant.
 
This game is blackhawk down meets the rock meets a little red alert two and just a hint of war of the worlds. Oh yeah. MGS too. 
 
 
The references will all make sense when you finish it.

[ShadowGorrath]

I finished it yesterday and those references still don't make sense

Waiting all this time to play this 5-7 hour campaign was definetly worth it. People rate it badly only cause of the dedicated server thing and all.

[Spicious]

In Australian dollars and prices that equates to an incredible $16.85-23.6 per hour which places it squarely in the pirate without regard for ****ty developers who couldn't be ****ed doing a decent port pile. Pirate MW2, buy Dragon Age.

[Dilmah G]

Spoiler:

No, your CIA agent could easily be unable or unwilling to open fire even if it compromised his mission - he is, after all, a human being. You can open fire if you want (though I can't imagine your training would support that.)

Yeah,

Spoiler:

I'd imagine CIA dudes would probably open fire at least, engage in some aggressive banter, and praise the others for their bloodthirstiness, after realising any attempt to stop it would be futile. Which is not correct. If he had hung back just a little he would've been able to gun the others down with relative ease with that nice M240B. Hitting the civilians would've been another issue entirely, perhaps crouching when firing so the bullet exits would likely go above the crowd?

[TrashMan]

Pirate MW2, buy Dragon Age.

Way ahead of you mac.

[mxlm]

Spoiler:

No, your CIA agent could easily be unable or unwilling to open fire even if it compromised his mission - he is, after all, a human being.

Spoiler:

In which case the thing to do would be to, like, shoot the ****ing terrorists in their ****ing backs. Does the game permit the player to do this (rather, does it auto fail if you do)?

[ShadowGorrath]

Yes, it does.

[General Battuta]

Spoiler:

No, your CIA agent could easily be unable or unwilling to open fire even if it compromised his mission - he is, after all, a human being.

Spoiler:

In which case the thing to do would be to, like, shoot the ****ing terrorists in their ****ing backs. Does the game permit the player to do this (rather, does it auto fail if you do)?

Spoiler:

Ah, but then you'd be compromising your mission and potentially dooming many more, no? It's a tricky balancing act. Moreover, the sequence as a whole serves - as I understand it - a powerful narrative function.

[mxlm]

Spoiler:

Ah, but then you'd be compromising your mission and potentially dooming many more, no? It's a tricky balancing act. Moreover, the sequence as a whole serves - as I understand it - a powerful narrative function.

Spoiler:

Right, but by not firing you're already compromising your mission. So if you're going to do that, do it while also saving lives instead of, um, watching as random innocents are massacred

[NGTM-1R]

You assume the player's not going to intentionally miss, which is the most rational course of action and one Dilmah has already suggested.

[mxlm]

Actually, no, I don't assume that, and it had actually occurred to me. The original post I responded to said...oh, wait. I misread the original post.

Nevermind.

[Dilmah G]

Yes, it does.

Actually it doesn't. Makarov is invincible and will shred you to ribbons. Speaking from experience here.

[ShadowGorrath]

I didn't say that you can kill him. I answered that the mission auto-fails.

[Colonol Dekker]

Flashbangs are your enemy on that mission. But boy oh boy. What fun!

[TrashMan]

Can you say PLOT HOLE?

[Snail]

I kinda guessed this would turn into "CONSOLE GAMES ARE ****" or a "FPS GAMES ARE ****" or a "CALL OF DUTY GAMES ARE ****" or a "NEW GAMES ARE ****" or a "XYZ GAMES ARE ****" debate.