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Offline Thaeris

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Feature request time?
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It's the Duke Nukem Forever of prophecies..."


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Everyone else takes normal damage.
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Offline castor

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Its been discussed before. IIRC, the result was it would be too much of a hassle (codewise), considering the limited usage of the feature (or something to that effect).

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Future Pilot..

Play FS2 through without FSO first... Get a love for it in it's original flavour. Then crack open a bottle of FSO Sauce and smother it.
It's gonna blow your metaphorical socks off. :nod:
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline Spoon

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Future Pilot..

Play FS2 through without FSO first... Get a love for it in it's original flavour. Then crack open a bottle of FSO Sauce and smother it.
It's gonna blow your metaphorical socks off. :nod:
Or blablabla don't. Just play FS2 with FSO.
Don't listen to people with Nostalgia goggles  :p
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[02:42] <@Axem> critically wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> im happy with these missions now
[02:44] <@Axem> well
[02:44] <@Axem> with 2 of them

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Just as a side note, his "graphics card" isn't getting along with FSO all that well and he'll probably have to either go back to FS2 or buy new hardware.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline IronForge

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I'm a little surprised why GoG didn't make any proposal to HLP to sell it together or something. After all, FS2 is GoG's topseller. In fact, I'm surprised GoG is even surviving at all!! I heard latest scoop was that they were sellin FS2 (reminder: most popular product) for 5 bucks or something. And they probably have to give V or Interplay or whoever a big cut outta it.
Hosting costs (since they distribute by download) aside, thats probably 2 dollar profit per sale.


 

Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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* Androgeos Exeunt checks JeffVader's link.

:wtf:

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=67555.msg1334696#msg1334696

VIA/S3? I have that on my family PC, and it is, to put it bluntly across, the most rubbish graphics card I've ever come across. At least Intel works fine despite (according to Jeff) the outdated OpenGL drivers on my Mac.
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Quote: Tuesday, 3 October 2023 0133 UTC +8, #general
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Offline General Battuta

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I'm a little surprised why GoG didn't make any proposal to HLP to sell it together or something. After all, FS2 is GoG's topseller. In fact, I'm surprised GoG is even surviving at all!! I heard latest scoop was that they were sellin FS2 (reminder: most popular product) for 5 bucks or something. And they probably have to give V or Interplay or whoever a big cut outta it.
Hosting costs (since they distribute by download) aside, thats probably 2 dollar profit per sale.

Um, they've always sold FS2 for about that price. It's nothing new.

 

Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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They've also been doing it for about a year or two now, if my estimations are correct (they usually aren't). :nervous:
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Quote: Tuesday, 3 October 2023 0133 UTC +8, #general
MP-Ryan
Oh you still believe in fairy tales like Santa, the Easter Bunny, and free market competition principles?

 

Offline General Battuta

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Androgeos, you confuse me.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Yes.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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I'm a little surprised why GoG didn't make any proposal to HLP to sell it together or something. After all, FS2 is GoG's topseller. In fact, I'm surprised GoG is even surviving at all!! I heard latest scoop was that they were sellin FS2 (reminder: most popular product) for 5 bucks or something. And they probably have to give V or Interplay or whoever a big cut outta it.
Hosting costs (since they distribute by download) aside, thats probably 2 dollar profit per sale.



They can't do stuff like that, and if they would, HLP couldn't accept.

First of all, HLP is in no way affiliated with the rights holder. GoG is; they have aquired permission from Interplay to sell their game and Interplay receives profits from it. For HLP to start cashing in would violate all copyright and intellectual property laws I can think of.

Secondly, the content produced by FS2 community is pretty much either non-lisenced or related to the source code which still belongs to Volition even if they opened it by releasing it and changing it's license to one that allows outside modification on a non-commercial, non-profit basis. Note the key part in the end. No one is allowed to benefit from that stuff by selling it.

Thirdly, the content that is not related to the code is a patchwork of enhanced original FreeSpace franchise based media and original works from numerous authors. To approve commercial utilization of this content, not only would it be necessary to acquire permission from Interplay but also from the individual content creators themselves. This task in itself would be close to impossible in this point since content creators come and go, and might spend years in hibernation, so to speak.

Of course HLP could make an advertisement deal with GoG individually, but really, that would be kinda cheap and I doubt they would be willing to start paying for use to tell people where to download FS2, since we're already doing it for free just because they are a pretty cool company and we want to point people to a legitimate means of acquiring the retail game.
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Offline jr2

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It might be nice to have FSO as a selling point of FS / FS2 though. And add a link to HLP under the game options in the bookshelf.  No reason why not to advertise the fact that the fan community is alive and well and has presents.  ;)

 

Offline Vip

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Actually, although it's not very prominent, there is a whole page about FSO on GOG.com

http://www.gog.com/en/editorial/freespace_2_open_source_code_project_spotlight/%22
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Offline Goober5000

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I'm a little surprised why GoG didn't make any proposal to HLP to sell it together or something.
Who says they didn't?

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After all, FS2 is GoG's top seller.
Citation please?

 

Offline jr2

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Well, FS2 is the 3rd highest rated game on there, right behind #1 Fallout and #2 Fallout 2.  FS/ST is #15.

http://www.gog.com/en/search/sort/order/rate

 

Offline Goober5000

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Indeed, but I don't see a sales rank page. :)

I'm not saying FS2 isn't a best-seller, but I'd like to see a source before we start gushing. :D