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Yes, well, he also was rather a bit confused post-regen......

And yeah, after the slightly disappointing Venice ep, this one was again bloody brilliant.
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This is true, but I'm actually wondering if it's not linked to the fact that the Doctor cannot sense his own future, and whether the reason these two have to marry, and the cracks in time, are something directly linked to the Doctor himself? Once again, a wild stab in the dark, but maybe Amy Pond is the relative of someone like Jack Harkness or River Song? And, of course, there's always the duckless Duck-pond, so two ponds, neither of them being what they are supposed to be, I wonder if history isn't trying to send the Doctor a message?

 

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Well, I have to say that suprised me.

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I was wondering at some points as to whether the 'Dream Lord' was a friend of the Doctors, and he'd called him in order to help get Amy and Rory closer together. Obviously that went out the window when he was going against the Doctor when he was on his won. I totaly didn't expect him to be the doctor though :O.

Also, the end of the episode after the doctor sorts it all out, I noticed the reflection of the doctor in the console was the Dream Lord...?

Well, it looks like Rory is also a full time companion now as well, nice having more than 1 companion :) So. which one dies first? :P

All in all, a very good episode :)
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Well, I have to say that suprised me.

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I was wondering at some points as to whether the 'Dream Lord' was a friend of the Doctors, and he'd called him in order to help get Amy and Rory closer together. Obviously that went out the window when he was going against the Doctor when he was on his won. I totaly didn't expect him to be the doctor though :O.

Also, the end of the episode after the doctor sorts it all out, I noticed the reflection of the doctor in the console was the Dream Lord...?

Well, it looks like Rory is also a full time companion now as well, nice having more than 1 companion :) So. which one dies first? :P

All in all, a very good episode :)

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i recon the dream lord was the doctor, remember this is a dream so nothing stopping there being two representations of anyone or anything in it, the doc said the dream lord was the his greatest enemy and i always figured the the doc in all his guises saw things this way.
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i recon the dream lord was the doctor, remember this is a dream so nothing stopping there being two representations of anyone or anything in it, the doc said the dream lord was the his greatest enemy and i always figured the the doc in all his guises saw things this way.

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That's what the Doctor said, isn't it? He pretty much flat out stated that the Dream Lord was his own demons personified
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Yes, he stated quite emphatically at the end of the show, after he'd 'blown up the Tardis' that the dreamlord was the creation of psychic(sp?) pollen that had gotten into the system and was feeding off the Doctors dark side, stating that had it latched onto Amy or Rory it would barely have survived a few moments, which implies there's a lot of darkness hiding somewhere in the Doctor

 

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Yes, he stated quite emphatically at the end of the show, after he'd 'blown up the Tardis' that the dreamlord was the creation of psychic(sp?) pollen that had gotten into the system and was feeding off the Doctors dark side, stating that had it latched onto Amy or Rory it would barely have survived a few moments, which implies there's a lot of darkness hiding somewhere in the Doctor

He did commit genocide against two races, that's a big blemish right there.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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More than two. The doctor wiped out his entire race along with the Daleks and everything else created during the Time War.
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And let's not forget the Gelth, the Carrionites (kind of) and various other races/groups throughout the course of his life ;)

It's interesting that the Doctors fear of being the 'hand of God' stretched back as far as the Tom Baker days, when he had the chance to obliterate the Dalek race once and for all and found that he couldn't ;)

 

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And let's not forget the Gelth, the Carrionites (kind of) and various other races/groups throughout the course of his life ;)

It's interesting that the Doctors fear of being the 'hand of God' stretched back as far as the Tom Baker days, when he had the chance to obliterate the Dalek race once and for all and found that he couldn't ;)

There's never "once and for all" where Daleks are concerned, wiping them out completely is an impossibility. It's simply because it wouldn't be dr. Who without an occasional run-in with the Daleks so they'll always find a way to bring them back :)
As for the doctor's fear of being the "hand of God", someone should tell him that's Baltar already so he's off the hook..
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:lol:

I just hope they don't get too carried away with the 'angsty Doctor' persona, it was all getting a bit too emo for my tastes by the end of Tennants tenure, and part of what I liked about Smith was the return to a more vibrant, energised Doctor, pulling out his dark side and feelings of self-hatred for his failures once in a while is fine, as long as it doesn't become the centre of the writers' attention.

 

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While I am glad that they quickly put the whole "romance" subplot to bed, I doubt we've seen the last of it.  I wouldn't put it past the writers to off Rory somehow to revive that tension.  That said, it was a touching scene when she explained how she knew it was a dream before they did what they were going to do with the bus.
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While I am glad that they quickly put the whole "romance" subplot to bed, I doubt we've seen the last of it.  I wouldn't put it past the writers to off Rory somehow to revive that tension.  That said, it was a touching scene when she explained how she knew it was a dream before they did what they were going to do with the bus.

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The dude had placed the wedding inside the TARDIS. We are so going to see Rory again.

But on to the latest episode. Anyone can say anything about the latest episode, but the scene where van Gogh sees hi's own work in 2010 makes my day. With the french guy explaining how he just loved hi's art, one of the best scenes of the season so far.

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"What does the scanner say?" "Nines, lots of nines!"

This is hilarious, somehow.
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So just what is so dangerous that EVERY alien race the Doctor has ever defeated will send a fleet to Earth at the SAME TIME?!?!?!?

We gotta wait a week... :ick:
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Yeah, now it's getting really interesting.


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After all for the Daleks to work with anyone it MUST be a huge threat
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I'm not certain if they turned up to stop whatever it is, or to serve it...

 

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The Daleks don't serve anything...they even killed their own creator...twice.
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