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Offline Angelus

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While it is possible to refer to that new Installer/ Launcher/ Updater as "something like Steam", i'd like suggest to not do that.
Whenever i hear or read Steam, i get cold shivers running down my spine and automatically engage RAGE mode.
And since it seems i'm not the only one, i suggest we refer to it as N.I.L.S. or FSNils ( New Installer and Launcher System ).
Much less confusing and no need to mention Steam ever again.  :P

 

Offline LordMelvin

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... i suggest we refer to it as N.I.L.S. or FSNils ( New Installer and Launcher System ).

how about f-soil - F ree S pace O pen I nstaller & L auncher 
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Offline TopAce

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That's a very creative name, given that S-foil is a Star Wars term. :yes:
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Offline Angelus

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Too Late, NILS it is. :P

 

Offline The E

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Too soon, no firm decision has been made yet  :p
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Offline Angelus

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Damn, you blew it. :P

 

Offline LordMelvin

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That's a very creative name, given that S-foil is a Star Wars term. :yes:

Hey, you're right! I probably should have thought of that for myself before I suggested it so as to get my capitalization right.

Edit to add: Not being sarcastic here, I actually didn't realize that.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2010, 03:29:43 pm by LordMelvin »
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To be honest, I'm sorry you hate Steam so much, but I find that anyone who just automatically shoots it down hasn't taken the time to fully understand the benefits of the system.  I'm not going to filter myself just for those people.  Hate it or not, it's the most recognized example of anything close to what we're doing.
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Offline General Battuta

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Steam is awesome. It's one of the best things to happen to PC gaming in a while and one of the reasons that PCs haven't lost even more ground to consoles.

I can't count how many games, new and classic alike, that I've been able to grab due to awesome Steam sales. And you can get stuff on there, like X-COM, that you'd never be able to find at retail.

A winner in my book, and not a bad thing to be associated with.

Please don't give this system some god-awful acronym like NILS or F-SOIL. That's horrifying.

 

Offline The E

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Yep. Let's just call it the Launcher and be done with it (as this whole installer is planned to be part of the new, completely redone and multiplatformized Launcher by IssMneur and kkmic).
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Offline rsaxvc

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This new launcher sounds awesome. I'd be willing to help out.

I'm just not a fan of stand-alone games, with:
un-synchronized updates,
having to run a game just to find out there's nobody up for a match,
giant updates ( pk3 files are a good example )

and Steam takes care of those for me, but I bet we can do better, or at least not use 40 threads while running in the background.

 

Offline brandx0

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I figured I'd chime in on the idea of putting us up on Steam:

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Offline Angelus

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I figured I'd chime in on the idea of putting us up on Steam:



 :lol: :yes:

 

Offline Thaeris

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Offline Getter Robo G

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I would like to comment...

I resisted any steam game for years. But then I wanted to play Supcom2...

Wanted to to try Demo first, But you need steam to DL it, WTF?

Had some extra cash and had to decide C&C4 or Supcom2... Gave C&C4 the finger and blew $50.00 on Supcom2.

Got home and went to install it, first thing it does is install STEAM...

Look, I get that fact that you should get online at least once to REGISTER a game, but for someone like me who occasionally loses access to the internet cause of finances (I won't get into it but for example I once went without cable TV for 7 years cause Dail up internet was MORE IMPORTANT).

So now you have basically a control program demanding to be run before the game launches that forces you to be online.

I just turned off the net for a sec to run Supcom2, first thing it does is update steam and unless you're online that's where the process stops.


Following blacked out for the "sensitive" types.

Spoiler:

If your game has a single-player mode and is not categorized as an MMO or a hybrid of one you have no right to force customers who paid you damn money to connect to anyone or anything just to play your game after they registered their legal copy.

All bull**** aside, yes I know I only own the physical disk and you developers "Own" the content on it.  That's fine and should be like that.

But no one has the right to explicitly determine where or when an individual can access said content.

IF you buy MMO cards for time access that's ONE thing. That is an additional fee that some people save up for to treat themselves or others choose not to participate at all.

I used to be an EverQuest I player, but that $5.00 extra jump killed my finances back then so I had to give it up.

There are a few reasons I play AO occasionally. IT's FREE, It's fun, and as long as the servers are up it's game time. The paid functionality is optional for more content, not basic content, which is much more vast than any other "MMO" out there with a similar arraignment.

According to Funcom's C.E.O., the "Froob" marketing campaign is a success and has kept Funcom in the black as far as AO section is concerned. Good for them.

Now back to Steam.

I paid my money and entered my DRM code, that disk only works for me if you have one time registration on installation (same info even if I use another comp after an upgrade or visiting long term somewhere).

Having a user needlessly jump through an EXTRA hoop just to enjoy the software they bothered to pay for is just another feather in the pirate camp.

If some guy on the street had a steam cracked game for $25.00, (you know like the guy who comes around your workplace and has speakers or DVD's and what not, for sale every other month), I would seriously consider it for a moment.


Pros: No steam

Cons: No, or limited-lan, multiplay. If disk is damaged or causes some physical error can't return it to "store". You're hurting the developer.

Addition new Pro: You're hurting the developers.  :drevil:
[let's just say a Pirate Emoticon for conversations here would be an interesting option...]

Rant ended.


Oh I just supported Atari and Bioware by buying the Witcher and DragonAge.


And BTW I just looked on the back of my Supcom2 box, VALVE is not listed on it! Unless you KNEW GPG is Valve's (censored), a customer would unknowing get saddled with steam and would be forced to keep it in this day and age of software. They could only return it for another disk of the same game if it were damaged.

"Cause of Pirates". So now every customer is a pirate the moment you buy a game, nice...

Thus the importance of trying demos before you buy any software. A costly lesson to learn each and every time you fail to do so. Grilling your local games merchant is mandatory now "Do I need steam to play this f-ing game? yes? Bye..."

I broke my boycott of Valve/steam this one time, never again...
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I believe Steam still has a functioning offline mode, you register the game through steam, set it up for offline play, and you shouldn't need to be online to play single player again.  Trust me, it's orders of magnitude less offensive than Ubisoft's new DRM that requires you to be online the ENTIRE TIME you're playing, and if you disconnect for more than 30 seconds THE GAME QUITS.
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Offline General Battuta

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Steam is awesome, and I wish every PC game used it.

yeah bring it mofos

 

Offline Angelus

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Steam is awesome, and I wish every PC game used it.

yeah bring it mofos

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Confused by the teachings of the mighty gaming industry he has become, a threat he is, yes.
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Offline The E

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Oh, do shut up.

Also, can this thread please be closed? It started at a low level and has only gone further down the drain already.
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23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

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