[Rga_Noris]

If you've been around the Freespace Upgrade Project Forums, you may have noticed that I have recently begun an attempt to get Ragingloli's Hatty up and running.

Loooooooooooooooooooong story short, Ive made progress, but have now hit a snag. The snag is that FSO crashes when ever the Hatty is loaded under certain cirumstances.

If I export the Hatty from Blender (detail0-3, debris, and turrets) but do NOT use and edgesplit modifier on detail0, I can load and convert .dae with no issues. It will display find in PCS2. When I go to load the model in the tech room, it takes nearly 6 minutes, but the model does load with no obvious errors.

# of verts for detail0: 18375

HOWEVER, if I use the edgesplit on detail0 with all other variables remaining the same, once I attempt to load the Hatty in the techroom, FSO will hang, the music will drop, and after waiting 30-40 minutes and clicking, FSO stops responding.

# of verts for detail0 after edgesplit: 39423

Now edgesplit also causes a lot of Non-manifold areas, however in the past this has caused no problems with other models, and keep in mind that there are still non-manifold areas on the non-edgesplit version that managed to load just fine.

Im using the debug build for RC3, and this was the initial log that was made afer the crash:

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==========================================================================
DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
==========================================================================
FreeSpace version: 3.6.12
Passed cmdline options:
  -32bit
  -spec_exp 15
  -ogl_spec 20
  -spec_static 1.5
  -spec_point 1.2
  -spec_tube 1.5
  -ambient_factor 35
  -env
  -mipmap
  -missile_lighting
  -glow
  -nomotiondebris
  -spec
  -normal
  -3dshockwave
  -post_process
  -no_vsync
  -dualscanlines
  -orbradar
  -rearm_timer
  -targetinfo
  -3dwarp
  -ship_choice_3d
  -weapon_choice_3d
  -warp_flash
  -mod mediavps
  -fps
  -show_mem_usage
Building file index...
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\3610_Patch.vp' with a checksum of 0x07e72699
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Advanced.vp' with a checksum of 0xd06bf123
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Assets.vp' with a checksum of 0xc9e372bb
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Core.vp' with a checksum of 0x0dc7bb8f
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Effects.vp' with a checksum of 0xa3141c30
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Music.vp' with a checksum of 0x4dbbbe96
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\multi-mission-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0x377695e0
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\multi-voice-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0xd50e7442
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa11d56f1
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd77da83a
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x86920b82
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x705e8d71
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d
Searching root 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\' ... 13 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\3610_Patch.vp' ... 180 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Advanced.vp' ... 2868 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Assets.vp' ... 1810 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Core.vp' ... 146 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Effects.vp' ... 1046 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Music.vp' ... 32 files
Searching root 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\' ... 84 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\multi-mission-pack.vp' ... 110 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\multi-voice-pack.vp' ... 307 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' ... 1337 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\stu_fs2.vp' ... 2355 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\tango1_fs2.vp' ... 32 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\tango2_fs2.vp' ... 15 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\tango3_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files
Found 19 roots and 13591 files.
AutoLang: Language auto-detection successful...
Setting language to English
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_strings-lcl.tbm' ...
Initializing OpenAL...
  Using 'Generic Software' as OpenAL sound device...
  OpenAL Vendor     : Creative Labs Inc.
  OpenAL Renderer   : Software
  OpenAL Version    : 1.1

... OpenAL successfully initialized!
Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 1680x1050 with 32-bit color...
  Initializing WGL...
  Requested WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
  Actual WGL Video values    = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
  OpenGL Vendor     : NVIDIA Corporation
  OpenGL Renderer   : GeForce GTX 275/PCI/SSE2
  OpenGL Version    : 3.2.0

  Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_point_sprite".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shading_language_100".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shader_objects".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_shader".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader".
  Using extension "GL_NV_vertex_program3".
  Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT".

  Initializing Shaders Manager...
  Loading and compiling main shaders...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (null-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (null-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (b-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (b-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (b-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (bg-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lb-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbg-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgse-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbse-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgsn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbsn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgsne-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbsne-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfb-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbg-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfe-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgse-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfe-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbse-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgsn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbsn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgsne-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbsne-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (null-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lg-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (ls-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgse-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lse-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgsn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (ln-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lsn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgsne-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lsne-f.sdr) ...
  Shaders Manager initialized.

  Max texture units: 4 (32)
  Max elements vertices: 1048576
  Max elements indices: 1048576
  Max texture size: 8192x8192
  Can use compressed textures: YES
  Texture compression available: YES
  Using trilinear texture filter.
  Using GLSL for model rendering.
  Shader Version: 1.50 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
... OpenGL init is complete!
Size of bitmap info = 760 KB
Size of bitmap extra info = 52 bytes
ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence...
SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization...
LUA: Opening LUA state...
LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries...
LUA: Beginning ADE initialization
ADE: Initializing enumeration constants...
ADE: Assigning Lua session...
SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence....
Wokka!  Error opening file (scripting.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'flak-sct.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'velindc-sct.tbm' ...
SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete.
SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked
SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run
SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run
Using high memory settings...
render_target: creating new 1680x1050 FBO
render_buffer: creating new 1680x1050 render buffer
texture_pool: creating new 1680x1050 texture
Wokka!  Error opening file (interface.tbl)!
WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-sdf.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-sdf.tbm' ...
ANI 2_radar1 with size 209x170 (33.6% wasted)
Windows reported 16 joysticks, we found 1
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_music-mus.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_advmuzzle-mfl.tbm' ...
Wokka!  Error opening file (armor.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wxp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-wxp.tbm' ...
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp20.eff) with 64 frames at 30 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (ExpMissileHit1.eff) with 44 frames at 30 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp05.eff) with 47 frames at 20 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp06.eff) with 48 frames at 20 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp04.eff) with 60 frames at 20 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (Maxim_Impact.eff) with 23 frames at 30 fps.
ANI Lamprey_Impact with size 80x80 (37.5% wasted)
BMPMAN: Found EFF (Gmuzzle.eff) with 5 frames at 30 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (PWmuzzle.eff) with 4 frames at 30 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (Rmuzzle.eff) with 4 frames at 30 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (Bmuzzle.eff) with 5 frames at 30 fps.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_tech-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_models-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_trails-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_dragon-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_density-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_models-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_tech-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_escort-hdg.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-str.tbm' ...
loading animated cursor "cursor"
ANI cursor with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Ships.tbl is : VALID
Weapons.tbl is : VALID
cfile_init() took 271
Got event GS_EVENT_GAME_INIT (49) in state NOT A VALID STATE (0)
ANI cursor.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Got event GS_EVENT_MAIN_MENU (0) in state GS_STATE_INITIAL_PLAYER_SELECT (37)
ANI 2_mainwalk.ani with size 209x477 (6.8% wasted)
ANI 2_mainflyby.ani with size 509x189 (26.2% wasted)
ANI 2_maincrane.ani with size 192x116 (9.4% wasted)
ANI 2_mainexit.ani with size 319x174 (32.0% wasted)
ANI 2_mainbarracks.ani with size 273x158 (38.3% wasted)
ANI 2_mainreadyroom.ani with size 231x145 (43.4% wasted)
ANI 2_maintechroom.ani with size 69x119 (7.0% wasted)
ANI 2_mainoptions.ani with size 337x206 (19.5% wasted)
ANI 2_maincampaign.ani with size 308x190 (25.8% wasted)
Got event GS_EVENT_TECH_MENU (11) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1)
Techroom successfully initialized, now changing tab...
Loading model 'fighter01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'fighter01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x3503498e, IBX checksum: 0x4024384c -- "fighter01.pof"
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.528 (0.528)
Called captureCallback()!
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'Drone02.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'Drone02.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x44d303d0, IBX checksum: 0xc7f961d1 -- "Drone02.pof"
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.266 (0.266)
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'cargo03.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX/TSB to read for 'cargo03.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xd677638e, IBX checksum: 0x6d453f00 -- "cargo03.pof"
Called captureCallback()!
Called captureCallback()!
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'capital2V-01.pof'
IBX:  Warning!  Found invalid IBX file: 'capital2V-01.ibx'
IBX: Starting a new IBX for 'capital2V-01.pof'.
IBX: Starting a new TSB for 'capital2V-01.pof'.


It should be noted that I made sure no previous versions of an .IBX existed, going to the extent of removing them from the mediavp file so FSO would be forced to create new ones. what is troubling is that it claims it 'found' an invalid .IBX, however I've confirmed that there are no .IBX's for the capital2V-01 to be found. Thinking that the creation of the IBX or TSB may be the reason for the crash, I disabled cacheing in the launcher and proceeded to have an identicle crash, but with this log:

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==========================================================================
DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
==========================================================================
FreeSpace version: 3.6.12
Passed cmdline options:
  -32bit
  -spec_exp 15
  -ogl_spec 20
  -spec_static 1.5
  -spec_point 1.2
  -spec_tube 1.5
  -ambient_factor 35
  -env
  -mipmap
  -missile_lighting
  -glow
  -nomotiondebris
  -spec
  -normal
  -3dshockwave
  -post_process
  -no_vsync
  -dualscanlines
  -orbradar
  -rearm_timer
  -targetinfo
  -3dwarp
  -ship_choice_3d
  -weapon_choice_3d
  -warp_flash
  -mod mediavps
  -noibx
  -fps
  -show_mem_usage
Building file index...
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\3610_Patch.vp' with a checksum of 0x07e72699
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Advanced.vp' with a checksum of 0xd06bf123
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Assets.vp' with a checksum of 0xc9e372bb
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Core.vp' with a checksum of 0x0dc7bb8f
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Effects.vp' with a checksum of 0xa3141c30
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Music.vp' with a checksum of 0x4dbbbe96
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\multi-mission-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0x377695e0
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\multi-voice-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0xd50e7442
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa11d56f1
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd77da83a
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x86920b82
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x705e8d71
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d
Searching root 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\' ... 13 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\3610_Patch.vp' ... 180 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Advanced.vp' ... 2868 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Assets.vp' ... 1810 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Core.vp' ... 146 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Effects.vp' ... 1046 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\mediavps\MV_Music.vp' ... 32 files
Searching root 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\' ... 84 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\multi-mission-pack.vp' ... 110 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\multi-voice-pack.vp' ... 307 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' ... 1337 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\stu_fs2.vp' ... 2355 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\tango1_fs2.vp' ... 32 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\tango2_fs2.vp' ... 15 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\tango3_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\FreeSpace2\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files
Found 19 roots and 13591 files.
AutoLang: Language auto-detection successful...
Setting language to English
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_strings-lcl.tbm' ...
Initializing OpenAL...
  Using 'Generic Software' as OpenAL sound device...
  OpenAL Vendor     : Creative Labs Inc.
  OpenAL Renderer   : Software
  OpenAL Version    : 1.1

... OpenAL successfully initialized!
Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 1680x1050 with 32-bit color...
  Initializing WGL...
  Requested WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
  Actual WGL Video values    = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
  OpenGL Vendor     : NVIDIA Corporation
  OpenGL Renderer   : GeForce GTX 275/PCI/SSE2
  OpenGL Version    : 3.2.0

  Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_point_sprite".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shading_language_100".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shader_objects".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_shader".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader".
  Using extension "GL_NV_vertex_program3".
  Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT".

  Initializing Shaders Manager...
  Loading and compiling main shaders...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (null-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (null-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (b-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (b-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (b-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (bg-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lb-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbg-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgse-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbse-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgsn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbsn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgsne-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbsne-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfb-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbg-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfe-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgse-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfe-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbse-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgsn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbsn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgsne-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lfne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbsne-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (null-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lg-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (ls-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgse-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lse-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgsn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (ln-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lsn-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgsne-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lsne-f.sdr) ...
  Shaders Manager initialized.

  Max texture units: 4 (32)
  Max elements vertices: 1048576
  Max elements indices: 1048576
  Max texture size: 8192x8192
  Can use compressed textures: YES
  Texture compression available: YES
  Using trilinear texture filter.
  Using GLSL for model rendering.
  Shader Version: 1.50 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
... OpenGL init is complete!
Size of bitmap info = 760 KB
Size of bitmap extra info = 52 bytes
ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence...
SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization...
LUA: Opening LUA state...
LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries...
LUA: Beginning ADE initialization
ADE: Initializing enumeration constants...
ADE: Assigning Lua session...
SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence....
Wokka!  Error opening file (scripting.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'flak-sct.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'velindc-sct.tbm' ...
SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete.
SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked
SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run
SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run
Using high memory settings...
render_target: creating new 1680x1050 FBO
render_buffer: creating new 1680x1050 render buffer
texture_pool: creating new 1680x1050 texture
Wokka!  Error opening file (interface.tbl)!
WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-sdf.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-sdf.tbm' ...
ANI 2_radar1 with size 209x170 (33.6% wasted)
Windows reported 16 joysticks, we found 1
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_music-mus.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_advmuzzle-mfl.tbm' ...
Wokka!  Error opening file (armor.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wxp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-wxp.tbm' ...
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp20.eff) with 64 frames at 30 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (ExpMissileHit1.eff) with 44 frames at 30 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp05.eff) with 47 frames at 20 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp06.eff) with 48 frames at 20 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp04.eff) with 60 frames at 20 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (Maxim_Impact.eff) with 23 frames at 30 fps.
ANI Lamprey_Impact with size 80x80 (37.5% wasted)
BMPMAN: Found EFF (Gmuzzle.eff) with 5 frames at 30 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (PWmuzzle.eff) with 4 frames at 30 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (Rmuzzle.eff) with 4 frames at 30 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (Bmuzzle.eff) with 5 frames at 30 fps.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_tech-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_models-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_trails-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_dragon-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_density-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_models-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_adveffects-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_tech-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_escort-hdg.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-str.tbm' ...
loading animated cursor "cursor"
ANI cursor with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Ships.tbl is : VALID
Weapons.tbl is : VALID
cfile_init() took 255
Got event GS_EVENT_GAME_INIT (49) in state NOT A VALID STATE (0)
ANI cursor.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Got event GS_EVENT_MAIN_MENU (0) in state GS_STATE_INITIAL_PLAYER_SELECT (37)
ANI 2_mainwalk.ani with size 209x477 (6.8% wasted)
ANI 2_mainflyby.ani with size 509x189 (26.2% wasted)
ANI 2_maincrane.ani with size 192x116 (9.4% wasted)
ANI 2_mainexit.ani with size 319x174 (32.0% wasted)
ANI 2_mainbarracks.ani with size 273x158 (38.3% wasted)
ANI 2_mainreadyroom.ani with size 231x145 (43.4% wasted)
ANI 2_maintechroom.ani with size 69x119 (7.0% wasted)
ANI 2_mainoptions.ani with size 337x206 (19.5% wasted)
ANI 2_maincampaign.ani with size 308x190 (25.8% wasted)
Got event GS_EVENT_TECH_MENU (11) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1)
Techroom successfully initialized, now changing tab...
Loading model 'fighter01.pof'
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 4.390 (4.390)
Loading model 'fighter06.pof'
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 2.381 (2.381)
Called captureCallback()!
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'capital2V-01.pof'

At no time does the debug build ever exit with any errors or warnings.

My system is an Intel Q9550 at 2.83Ghz, Nvidia GeForce GTX 275 (1792MB), 4G of RAM on Windows7 64-bit.

Thanks for any help!
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Scooby_Doo]

I know there's a limit to triangles per object (i think around 30,000 give or take)  Anymore and fs2, fred and PCS2 will crash when trying to load them.

[Rga_Noris]

Could be.

The Hatty is 36,022 at detail0, and all other subs are well below 30,000.

Doesnt explain why it would load with fewer verts but the same number of polys. And PCS can load the model fine no matter what, only FSO crashes.

Ill try it though and see what happens.

UPDATE: Bingo, Scooby. Reduced polys to around 29K (minimal detail loss) and blamo. Works. Once the .IBX is made, load time is minimal. THANKS!

[Scooby_Doo]

What I normally do is take the small detail stuff (turret bases, grebble) and put that as a seperate subobject of the main hull.

[Galemp]

WARNING WARNING WARNING

From inspecting the model in-game, it looks like most of the polygons are DOUBLE SIDED. Fly into the docking bay, go to the external camera, and zoom out.

This doubles the polycount. This needs to be fixed before this model goes into the Media VPs.

On a related note, the LOD polycount is far too heavy. You should use the current LOD2 as LOD1, and the retail Hat as LOD2 (with proper UV mapping.)

...otherwise it looks amazing. ^_^

[Rga_Noris]

According to Blender, they are not double sided.

Also, if they were, the poly count in FSO would be twice what Blender reads (Blenders poly count does not double for double sided polys...) and it is not, so there's two checks that show a negative on the double sided polys.

If you have another way to determine this, let me know.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Double sided polys aren't even supported are they?  If you are seeing mapping on both sides then there are 2 polys on top of each other.  This will cause PCS2 and/or FS2 to throw fits and lock up when building the pof or cache files.

[Woolie Wool]

From my experience FSO always draws the mapping on both sides. If the camera is inside a model you can see much of the geometry, and if you have "show ship" enabled on a ship with the cockpit the glass is drawn including env map reflections. For Wings cockpit models I had to set the glass texture to "invisible" to prevent it from being drawn.

[Rga_Noris]

Double sided polys aren't even supported are they?  If you are seeing mapping on both sides then there are 2 polys on top of each other.  This will cause PCS2 and/or FS2 to throw fits and lock up when building the pof or cache files.

Pretty darn sure this isnt the case either. Ive checked and rechecked, but ill check again.

[Galemp]

Really? It's been my experience that the back sides of polys are not drawn by the rendering engine. But if Blender says it's OK, well...

...say, I was running some tests, and it looks like you're not using the physical subsystems RagingLoli set up. Any particular reason?

[Woolie Wool]

Really? It's been my experience that the back sides of polys are not drawn by the rendering engine. But if Blender says it's OK, well...

At one point I think this behavior changed. The rendering engine will draw the back side of cockpit glass, and on occasions when I've clipped through a model I could see the geometry from inside.

[Dragon]

Indeed, and it should be fixed ASAP since that means using a really ugly hack to get cockpits to work.

[Rga_Noris]

They have been *temporarily** removed, but will return. I wanted to see what was causing some crashes when I first started so isolated sub objects and never un-isolated some of them. Also, the physical subsystem have no damaged counterpart, so I would have to make those.

[The E]

Really? It's been my experience that the back sides of polys are not drawn by the rendering engine. But if Blender says it's OK, well...

At one point I think this behavior changed. The rendering engine will draw the back side of cockpit glass, and on occasions when I've clipped through a model I could see the geometry from inside.

Indeed, and it should be fixed ASAP since that means using a really ugly hack to get cockpits to work.

Where's the Mantis entry for this?

[Woolie Wool]

I was under the impression that it was an "it's not a bug, it's a feature" things so I never reported it.

[Droid803]

The back sides of polies has been drawn since 3.6.10 RC1, but not in 3.6.9.
It caused the inside of Steve-O fighters with the black cockpit glass to well, completely blind the player in cockpit view.

I would have mantised it but hey, Mantis never sent me a confirmation email.

The bug reporting system is bugged :/

[General Battuta]

The back sides of polies has been drawn since 3.6.10 RC1, but not in 3.6.9.
It caused the inside of Steve-O fighters with the black cockpit glass to well, completely blind the player in cockpit view.

I would have mantised it but hey, Mantis never sent me a confirmation email.

The bug reporting system is bugged :/

Try again, Mantis sends confirmation emails now.

[Droid803]

Oh it does now? Excellent. Let me try again.
Either way, I couldn't Mantis it at the time because it wouldn't send me that email :<

EDIT: \o/ it worked!