[DeepSpace9er]

Who wouldnt want kids to grow up in totally fabulous homes?

[el_magnifico]

Well, I don't know anything about California's laws or this law in particular. In my country there was a debate a few weeks ago about same-sex marriage, and it was finally approved. So please, allow me to speak from that viewpoint.

Would that be better or worse than dangerous abortions?

Exactly. This is an excellent alternative to abortion in many cases. And the more chances of getting an adoption, the better for those children.
Nevertheless, it should be noted that we don't know for sure how many same-sex couples will adopt.

Regarding benefits... well, I don't see the point in that argument. If every person in this world was heterosexual, and a majority of them were to get married, there would still be families and benefits to give.

[iamzack]

for the record,

adoption isn't an alternative to abortion, it's an alternative to caring for a child

the only alternative to abortion is carrying the pregnancy to term

[el_magnifico]

for the record,

adoption isn't an alternative to abortion, it's an alternative to caring for a child

Technically, you're right.

[Bobboau]

adoption isn't an alternative to abortion, it's an alternative to caring for a child

abortion is an alternative for careing for a child also, no child no problem.

[el_magnifico]

Hmmm... now I'm getting second thoughts about having said that. This is going to open a can of worms, and there should be a reason why we haven't debated this before (or at least not lately, though I've missed a few things around here in the last weeks).

But anyway, I guess this topic is about celebrating the equalization of rights amongst people, regardless of their sexual orientations. So maybe it's not the right place nor the right moment to discuss such things. Sorry if I spoke without thinking thoroughly about the potential consequences first.

[iamzack]

I didn't particularly want to change the topic, it's just a pet peeve of mine.

But yeah, I think we'll see gay marriage accepted by the US federal government in our lifetimes. Bigotry is dying with the elderly and religion.

[MP-Ryan]

I didn't particularly want to change the topic, it's just a pet peeve of mine.

But yeah, I think we'll see gay marriage accepted by the US federal government in our lifetimes. Bigotry is dying with the elderly and religion.

Be nice if you ladies and gents joined the rest of the progressive free world =)

[Nuke]

i find that everyone under the age of 25 is a liberal hippie douche anyway. just remember anything that can be changed can be changed back.

[el_magnifico]

i find that everyone under the age of 25 is a liberal hippie douche anyway. just remember anything that can be changed can be changed back.

That's not only a baseless generalization, but it's also wrong right here.
I identify myself as a center-right person with an slightly verticalist mindset and a high priority for social stability (or whatever is the opposite of social unrest in English) and mutual respect, and for a well-exercised, impartial authority.
My economic thoughts... you all know those already.

I'm also usually viewed as far-right and a bit authoritarian by pretty much everyone else I know, with just a few exceptions, though I don't agree with such opinions of myself.

So just because someone thinks in a different way than you do, or is a bit more liberal in the social sense, it doesn't makes them a hippie/communist/terrorist/anarchyst/whatever you might want to label them.
Though I have to admit, the political spectrum varies from country to country.

By the way, I thought you agreed with same-sex marriage, or at least that's what I interpreted from your previous posts in this thread.

[iamzack]

nuke is trying to ruin the thread, ignore everything he says forever

[el_magnifico]

nuke is trying to ruin the thread, ignore everything he says forever

If I had to apply the same rule to you...

[Nuke]

that was a joke, in case you couldn't figure that out. it was also engineered to piss off iamzack. that second part now, that was important.

nuke is trying to ruin the thread, ignore everything he says forever

dont trust the vagina people!

[SpardaSon21]

Maybe we can keep the E-bay exec from being elected too.

To borrow from South Park, our gubernatorial election will be between a turd sandwich and a giant douche, and I'm not sure who is what.
/offtopic

[Colonol Dekker]

Well done.
Congrats. Less competition is always a good thing.
 
 
 
Bisexuals are just greedy though.
 
 
 
Genuinely pleaseds for those who benefit though.

[mxlm]

but begs the question

No it doesn't. You do.

[Nuclear1]

Don't know why we had Prop 8 in the first place.

Rights shouldn't be up for a vote. That's why they're called "rights".  And every Californian who's screaming and *****ing about the court overturning that vote can fornicate themselves with a hot iron.

[Bobboau]

or enact some other legislation as a '**** you' to the courts, maybe a federal law will come out of this that you don't like, maybe a federal amendment.

[mxlm]

Maybe monkeys will fly out of my butt and strangle you with their tails.

[Bobboau]

yeah, well, there isn't a majority in a democracy that wants that, so it's less likely than the thing I was talking about.