[Bearstrike]

If he stood anywhere, he'd be dead.  You don't mess with the CIA.

Tell that to Castro!

The CIA is notorious for being really bad at killing people.

DONT **** WITH ME Battuta I KNOW WHEN YOUR LYING

[Nemesis6]

US has always been better at leveling things than being subtle, to be fair.

HEY! They're LIBERATORS; It's what they DO! Look, you can't crack an omelette, without making an egg! A few innocent people dying, for the greater good... not that big of a deal!  

[NGTM-1R]

US has always been better at leveling things than being subtle, to be fair.

NSA says hi.

[Niue]

Found some interesting links about the currently evolving case:

http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2010/12/one-of-julian-assanges-sex-offense.html
http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2010/08/strangest-blog-thread-yet-on-swedish.html

Anna Ardin, a notorious radical known in Sweden for her feminism views on how men achieve social dominance through sex, has been known to be bent on revenge. On January Ardin posted a blog entry on ‘7 Steps to Legal Revenge by Anna Ardin’, which included a statement, I’ve been thinking about some revenge over the last few days… An article on the blog can be read here

If these accusations are correct, then the case seriously questions whether such actions are to be considered rape.  And if no rape occurred, then there is no legal case against Assange.  IANAL, but using the court system (using nothing but ad hominem attacks) as a basis for personal revenge/vendettas without legal precedent seems wrong to me.  Also from what I've seen on the internet, a few feminists are not pleased by her actions...

http://www.inmalafide.com/2010/12/03/julian-assange-was-accused-of-rape-by-anna-ardin-a-radical-feminist-who-was-out-for-revenge/

Julian Assange’s rape accusers are nothing more than lying feminist slags. The name “Anna Ardin” must go down with Crystal Gail Mangum and Katelyn Faber in the Hall of Girls Who Cried Rape. We must make the definitive case as to how feminists have destroyed modern society by making it easy for mentally disturbed groupies to make false rape accusations because their feeeeeeelings were hurt.

[General Battuta]

ugh, that blog has no idea what a feminist is

[Flipside]

Unfortunately, the word Feminist seems to be more and more closely related to 'Female Chauvenist' It's a pity since, as you say, they are completly different things.

[Nuke]

i kinda think that feminism does go a bit too far in some cases. i think i would have to frown on any feminist organization that would support these women in their exploitation of the legal system.

[Flipside]

The thing is, Feminism was originally about equality, but nowadays the movement is becoming more and more infiltrated with chauvenism, the concept that men are worse than women, rather than women are the equal of men, and the meaning of the word has been bastardised because of it.

[General Battuta]

Citation needed, otherwise you're just talking about your perspective.

If anything that view was far, far more prevalent during earlier waves of feminism.

[Flipside]

The earliest waves of Feminism, as far as I am aware, was the post-war fight for equality where women refused to leave the factories and return to the kitchens. That was very much a fight for equality.

If I may quote the Cambridge Dictionary:

the belief that women should be allowed the same rights, power and opportunities as men and be treated in the same way, or the set of activities intended to achieve this state

Nowadays, as the article above suggests, the word 'Feminist' is becoming more and more synonymous with a more aggressive, anti-male agenda.

[General Battuta]

That was the first wave. Second wave was probably the high mark of female chauvinism. Third wave is a backlash against second wave.

[Flipside]

Maybe infiltrated was the wrong word to use, possibly 'associated' would be clearer with regards to my meaning.

[General Battuta]

That would be a better choice of words.

Nowadays, as the article above suggests, the word 'Feminist' is becoming more and more synonymous with a more aggressive, anti-male agenda.

Maybe in the public eye, but this an erroneous perception, largely due to second wave ideals when you had people harping about a lesbian world and women ushering in an age of peace.

As it turned out women in positions of power were every bit as bloody-minded as men.

[Flipside]

Oh, I know that, I was part of the Thatcher generation.

[karajorma]

I've never understood why the law allows the victim of a rape anonymity but not the accused. It leads to a ridiculous dichotomy of power where someone can falsely claim rape and ruin someone's life without much danger of repercussion. 

[el_magnifico]

I've never understood why the law allows the victim of a rape anonymity but not the accused. It leads to a ridiculous dichotomy of power where someone can falsely claim rape and ruin someone's life without much danger of repercussion. 

But that is more or less the case with pretty much every false accusation, isn't it? We're supposed to be evolved enough as a society to honor presumption of innocence. (We usually don't, but we're supposed to).

[karajorma]

With most false accusations the name of the victim is released which means that people can look into the past history of the victim too. For instance, the fact that this particular person has made accusations of sexual molestation in the past as well as the post about how to get revenge means that people aren't taking the accusation that seriously.

If people weren't able to check up as easily there would be a lot more people believing the story regardless of whether the case ever came to trial or not. Let's face it, if you're out to destroy someone's life you don't need a trial to do it. In fact if the media will help you but making accusations then it's probably better if their isn't a trial to prove that your entire story was fabricated.

[Bobboau]

and it helps if the collective of all Western, Asian, and Middle Eastern national governments want you shut up.

[Astronomiya]

I've never understood why the law allows the victim of a rape anonymity but not the accused. It leads to a ridiculous dichotomy of power where someone can falsely claim rape and ruin someone's life without much danger of repercussion. 

I believe the idea is to increase the reporting rates for rape, because as they stand, they are not good (most rapes/sexual assaults, IIRC, are not reported).  The rationale goes that because being sexually assaulted is so traumatizing and embarrassing, most victims won't report it if they know the news will be widely spread (as happens when the case is tried).  If they are given anonymity, this factor is mitigated, which hopefully leads to more actual rapes being reported.  Whether it actually works in practice, I'm not sure (I haven't seen any studies on this).

[karajorma]

I'm not complaining about the victims getting it. I'm complaining that the accused doesn't also get it.

For instance this case was very famous in the UK, as was this one.