[Sandwich]

I dont mean to be a dick or anything, but this is SMP and not creative. Sure I understand the fenris needs them, but if you want to play creative go on p's server as thats what that is. The warp plugin was put on without my permission, and although I understood it was just for the spleef, if it wasn't on there in the first place no-one would have noticed.

Do I still retain the private "home" warp I created? It was the only way I could get out of the problem I constantly have where every chunk around me loads but the one I'm in when I /home... :-/

[rhx123]

Yeah thats still there

[Sandwich]

Thank you!

[-Sara-]

Mkay, so it's survival only, but with exceptions at sudden intervals of occuring convenience, got it. Wack trees, build picks, mine resources so I can build more picks and build only to the extent where it's time-tabled feasible. Then I know what and to what extent Trash, me and other builders can expect future projects being achievable, or not. The tunnel's off then for sure. And I doubt TrashMan's castle and buildings belonging to his empire will grow much further or be used a lot.

Fac quod dico, non quod facio.

[rhx123]

There were lots of huge projects going on before warps. Shade's railway. Shade's House. Pred's Castle. Blueflames domes. Erasai's huge railway. everything hunternclark did. nojo's huge tower. The sand mansion and |\ shaped structure.
The only thing that's used warps is trashmans castle and your mine.
Creepers are nerfed to ease building, and there are always plentiful resources about.

[-Sara-]

I'm just very worried about people in the future seeing projects as unachievable when they have to walk a 1000-1500 blocks before reaching the rail for each time the want to build 100m of wall. These projects do keep people around and draw new ones in. Temporarily extended warps would help there until something is finished and the cart-rail can be extended to it. Without, people would only agglomerate to excisting cities and rail. You'd get a Manhattan of projecs without the odd secret Sahara castle popping up in far outreaches. Anyway, the dungeonsara you left is a mob-trap, which I guess is ill named. I'll try to /home in the tunnel for now and haul chests along or ask you or Qaz to update it's waypoint to the proper spot later.

[rhx123]

It hasn't put people off huge builds in the past, e.g. erasai's castle is miles away, as was shades house when it started, and it won't put people off in the future.
Things can get too big and collapse under their own weight. Why do you even need an 100m wall?
And besides, if people get bored and leaves and no-one plays, I'll shut down the server and keep my £11 a month.

[achtung]

I support your decision to remove warps rhx. I think using railways adds an element of challenge that makes the game more enjoyable.

Also Swantzaclause's workshop will be producing much more than coal.

[Pred the Penguin]

My biggest issue with warp points is that it curbs exploration, which is a big feature of playing multiplayer. What's the point of seeing what everyone built when you can just instant travel to your destination eh? I guess I'm just old fashioned...

I support your decision to remove warps rhx. I think using railways adds an element of challenge that makes the game more enjoyable.

Also Swantzaclause's workshop will be producing much more than coal.

Should I expect presents then?


...Please don't give me coal. o_o


Edit: BTW, I'm taking a short break from Minecraft. Feel free to explore the Lagoon though, I'm pretty sure Shade's home is still public. Give me a shout-out here if it's not.

[rhx123]

I agree, hence my decision to curb them.

[Sandwich]

I can see both sides. Most people only connect their projects to a rail once it's complete - or at least releasable. I know that's my plan with my house. Until that time, one can /home to get there. With my latest expansion, it does take a little bit of time to walk back and forth from where I'm working to where I can dump off resources, but I accept that as part of the game. My case isn't that bad, though - perhaps a minute to walk back & forth. I can imagine other, larger projects taking far longer to traverse...

I think an ideal compromise would be to allow each player either 2 /home's, or one /home, and one private warp point. That would reduce most of the warp point proliferation, while still allowing people with large projects a way to cut down the travel time. I don't know if such a thing is possible for sure, but I thought I saw something like "You have created 1 warp point out of [unlimited] allowed" when I made my private "/warp home" point...

[-Sara-]

That's what I'm trying to say.

[Polpolion]

I agree with rhx. We have this amazing rail system that no one really seemed to be using all that much. Problem is it's still going to be hard to appreciate compared to warping, but compared to walking it's still amazing.

[achtung]

Did anyone fix shade's rail system near the cliffs? I would have, but I didn't have any rail on me when I found it.

[Pred the Penguin]

I'm not entirely sure how to fix it cause the station is one of Hunternclark's setups...

BTW... new Minecraft update.

[rev_posix]

I'm not entirely sure how to fix it cause the station is one of Hunternclark's setups...

BTW... new Minecraft update.

Yep, 1.7.3 is supposed to fix the piston dupe bug, among other bugs.  Remember kids, don't update until you hear otherwise from the server admins!

[Killer Whale]

May I get building permission pecenipicek *hopeful face*?
I'm currently stuck in a cave which I can't climb out of, can't warp out of, can't die in, and can't dig my way out of due to no permissions. And it also seems if you remove a block, jump past it to start climbing up before it's replaced, it warps you back to where you were before you jumped through it.
Not that you have any idea how trustworthy I am to believe my promise that I am trustworthy but I promise I am trustworthy.
Still on vrganjko.no-ip.org:25565 or has it been changed somewhere in the last 37 pages?

edit: Handle "KillerWhale"

[pecenipicek]

May I get building permission pecenipicek *hopeful face*?
I'm currently stuck in a cave which I can't climb out of, can't warp out of, can't die in, and can't dig my way out of due to no permissions. And it also seems if you remove a block, jump past it to start climbing up before it's replaced, it warps you back to where you were before you jumped through it.
Not that you have any idea how trustworthy I am to believe my promise that I am trustworthy but I promise I am trustworthy.
Still on vrganjko.no-ip.org:25565 or has it been changed somewhere in the last 37 pages?

still the same.

[Killer Whale]

thanx *starts singing I'm a Lumberjack and I'm Okay*

[TrashMan]

How do you*NOT* update?..teh game automaticly updates when you connect.