[Mobius]

You know, a "lead me to my most recent post on that discussion" option would be quite handy. Also, an option showing how many new posts in a given thread I can expect to find since my last visit could even be handier, at times.

In a forum where only Admins (and a few other privileged members) have avatars, and signatures are totally uncompatible with images, the problem of finding posts when scrolling down a thread is present. In fact, HLP is pretty much the only forum where I have to rely on colors/badges to find my own posts, and see how much the discussion has progressed since the last time I posted.

The problem of finding posts should be more common that you'd think. There are members who rely on signatures, members who check threads so often they can easily find their own posts, members who don't follow a lot of threads and members who just don't post a lot. With the previous forum scheme gone and common sense forcing me to post "normally", if you pardon the term, it's become harder to find my own posts in threads.

Now, my question is the following: what's so wrong in lightblue posts with a dark background? Sometimes, if you don't pay attention, lightblue almost looks like white, and IMHO is therefore not a problem. The same principle can be applied to other used colors. Also, before you ask, I'm pretty sure 150% of us don't use colors to "feel special". There are other people who show extreme arrogance in "innocent" white posts, so I don't really understand where the problem is if content matters more than appearance.


This is not a rant, obviously. It's just that I want to clarify why and how certain members tend to post in colors.

[Angelus]

You know, a "lead me to my most recent post on that discussion" option would be quite handy. Also, an option showing how many new posts in a given thread I can expect to find since my last visit could even be handier, at times.

In a forum where only Admins (and a few other privileged members) have avatars, and signatures are totally uncompatible with images, the problem of finding posts when scrolling down a thread is present. In fact, HLP is pretty much the only forum where I have to rely on colors/badges to find my own posts, and see how much the discussion has progressed since the last time I posted.

The problem of finding posts should be more common that you'd think. There are members who rely on signatures, members who check threads so often they can easily find their own posts, members who don't follow a lot of threads and members who just don't post a lot. With the previous forum scheme gone and common sense forcing me to post "normally", if you pardon the term, it's become harder to find my own posts in threads.

Now, my question is the following: what's so wrong in lightblue posts with a dark background? Sometimes, if you don't pay attention, lightblue almost looks like white, and IMHO is therefore not a problem. The same principle can be applied to other used colors. Also, before you ask, I'm pretty sure 150% of us don't use colors to "feel special". There are other people who show extreme arrogance in "innocent" white posts, so I don't really understand where the problem is if content matters more than appearance.


This is not a rant, obviously. It's just that I want to clarify why and how certain members tend to post in colors.

As far as i'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with light blue colour on a dark theme.
I could understand the complaints about coloured posts, if dozens of users would use that.

I can understand that people complain about light-blue on white, though.
It really hurts the eye.

[Mobius]

Explain me how it hurts the eye, if I just said that sometimes lightblue and white can be mistaken. (Not an offense here, it's just a polite request.)

[Angelus]

Explain me how it hurts the eye, if I just said that sometimes lightblue and white can be mistaken. (Not an offense here, it's just a polite request.)

There seem to be a small misunderstanding, which is my fault, i should have made it a bit clearer in my post.

I meant to say:

lightblue coloured posts on a dark theme = fine for me
lightblue coloured posts on a white theme = hurts eyes

[el_magnifico]

I could understand this whole discussion if people were posting in dark color over dark backgrounds, or rainbow posting, but very few people here seem to post with colors, and even those who do use colors that are easily discernible from the (normal) background.
Meanwhile, everyone seems to be ok with those stupid small-font comments that some of us can't even NOTICE most of the time. Those are annoying.
Besides, every single feature can be abused by a sufficiently determined member. As exemplified below, you can even have annoying image sigs if you wanted to. And give me enough time, and I'll research and find an exploit to have an avatar too. So maybe people don't post in colors simply because they don't want to go through the hassle of pasting something every time they post a comment.
Ultimately, can't you admins just create a special group with no features activated, and put people who regularly abuse a feature there?

[Angelus]

if u hackzor hlp to haz avatarse, you git banned.

[Mobius]

There seem to be a small misunderstanding, which is my fault, i should have made it a bit clearer in my post.

I meant to say:

lightblue coloured posts on a dark theme = fine for me
lightblue coloured posts on a white theme = hurts eyes

Well, now that the theme has temporarily changed, my posts aren't lightblue.

I could understand this whole discussion if people were posting in dark color over dark backgrounds, or rainbow posting, but very few people here seem to post with colors, and even those who do use colors that are easily discernible from the (normal) background.
Meanwhile, everyone seems to be ok with those stupid small-font comments that some of us can't even NOTICE most of the time. Those are annoying.
Besides, every single feature can be abused by a sufficiently determined member. As exemplified below, you can even have annoying image sigs if you wanted to. And give me enough time, and I'll research and find an exploit to have an avatar too. So maybe people don't post in colors simply because they don't want to go through the hassle of pasting something every time they post a comment.
Ultimately, can't you admins just create a special group with no features activated, and put people who regularly abuse a feature there?

For a moment, I thought your sig had that funny image on it!

About small-font posts, I found those amazingly disturbing too. However, no one before Redstreblo really complained about that.


Which leads me to believe that the people who do things matter more than the things themselves when it comes to critics. If Mobius posts in colors, colored posts suddenly become a forum issue. 

[el_magnifico]

if u hackzor hlp to haz avatarse, you git banned.

Of course lulz! What I meant is that turning off any feature just because it gets or could potentially get "abused" doesn't makes sense if you ask me.

[NGTM-1R]

Which leads me to believe that the people who do things matter more than the things themselves when it comes to critics. If Mobius posts in colors, colored posts suddenly become a forum issue. 

If you behave like a twat, individual hallmarks of your behavior will be viewed as signs of twathood.

For my own part I've always viewed colored posts as a sign of blatant egotism. It is the member literally announcing that "I am special" and as such there is simply no other way to read it. For this reason, while banning them is not a matter of...discipline, I guess?, it's also not a problem to bring the abusers back down to Earth.

[Angelus]

if u hackzor hlp to haz avatarse, you git banned.

Of course lulz! What I meant is that turning off any feature just because it gets or could potentially get "abused" doesn't makes sense if you ask me.

But the "no avatar - no sig pics" policy makes sense.
For reasons The_E mentioned, ( improved loading times) and the fact that, if those get allowed, people will use them.
Personally, i don't want peoples posts buried between avatars and pics in their signatures.

A while back, we had glow tags. People started using it, not only to "enhance" their release posts ( TBP ), but also in their signatures. More and more people were jumping on the "glow-tag" waggon.
The content of the signatures were mostly the usual spam, "i has glow-tags, yay", and served no purpose, then to annoy other members.
It was really annoying, only IE users could see the effect, which annoyed a lot people, and FF users had coloured text walls, which also annoyed a lot of people.
The more the mods/ admins asked to not use/ abuse the feature, the more it was abused, until karajorma blocked that feat.

In my opinion, avatars and signature pics should never ever be allowed on hlp, to distracting.

[Mobius]

For my own part I've always viewed colored posts as a sign of blatant egotism. It is the member literally announcing that "I am special" and as such there is simply no other way to read it. For this reason, while banning them is not a matter of...discipline, I guess?, it's also not a problem to bring the abusers back down to Earth.

Because there's no such thing as a mindreader and you don't post in colors, what I said above is still valid. You're completely wrong because you don't (and you won't) know better than me why I post in colors. Your intepretation sounds like a fact, but it isn't.

Posting in colors is not a way to feel special.

Showing arrogance is.

[Fury]

Time for a good old-fashioned lock. Should have been done earlier, but better late than never.

[General Battuta]

this is such a great webzone

[karajorma]

Meanwhile, everyone seems to be ok with those stupid small-font comments that some of us can't even NOTICE most of the time. Those are annoying.

We limited comments to 6 point fonts a while back for exactly that reason.

People have had the option of changing their post colors for the last 10 years. I have yet to see a demonstration of how the forums have been so "disrupted".

You haven't seen endless posts *****ing at Mobius to change his light blue text? You haven't noticed how this thread started?

[Goober5000]

I personally don't have a problem with colored text, provided it doesn't hamper readability.  (Mobius's did; Black Wolf's didn't.)  It's readability that's the issue; this goes the same for small-font comments as well.

EDIT: Bah, late to the party again...