[Dilmah G]

'dictates of a team lead'? Seriously?

At the moment, Fury's the only bloke actively onboard here, to my knowledge. He's been pretty vague about what this 'upgrade' is going to entail. We've got people suggesting how it should be done, when it hasn't even been clear what this upgrade is going to be, with people talking about what that should be as well.

This is like trying to run and walk at the same time, in my opinion.

[General Battuta]

fury, myself and others have been discussing this for some time

if it happens it'll happens when some fredders free up and it'll probably work pretty democratically

[Fury]

Exactly. What this needs is real fredding talent, which simply isn't currently available. So until few good fredders are freed up from their current projects, this isn't going anywhere. And when they become free, we'll discuss what this project really will be about in private.

The only reason I posted this topic was to get fredder attention. Though of course I could have done that via PM's instead, which at the moment seems like it had been smarter choice.

[General Battuta]

that is a most salubrious course of action

[mjn.mixael]

salubrious
sa·lu·bri·ous/səˈlo͞obrēəs/Adjective
1. Health-giving; healthy: "salubrious weather".
2. (of a place) Pleasant; not run-down

Just cause I had to look it up too. 

[General Battuta]

dilmah you giant baby, unblock your pms, i have something for you

[TrashMan]

fury, myself and others have been discussing this for some time

if it happens it'll happens when some fredders free up and it'll probably work pretty democratically

That's what I mean by saying "on paper"...meaning than the details on what is to be modified need to be determined (between those that will work on this) before anything can begin.

[Dilmah G]

fury, myself and others have been discussing this for some time

if it happens it'll happens when some fredders free up and it'll probably work pretty democratically

Sure.

[General Battuta]

fury, myself and others have been discussing this for some time

if it happens it'll happens when some fredders free up and it'll probably work pretty democratically

Sure.

unlock pms

[Dilmah G]

Done'd, I think.

[karajorma]

I'm pretty much with Black Wolf and Goober on this one. More importantly I may have spotted a danger that others haven't mentioned yet.

From Fury's post there seems to be an intention to replace the standard FS1 and FS2 campaigns with these ones as the ones newbies play first (in the same way that you can still play Silent Threat instead of ST:R but I'll be buggered if I can think of a time anyone has ever recommended someone do so).

The problem with this approach is "What if the new campaign turns off newbies for the same reason quite a few veterans will probably hate it too?" Unlike Blue Planet, Transcend, etc where we are dealing with people who already know the FS universe in this case you'd be tinkering with people's first exposure to the game.

What do you do if 20% of the community love the changes, 20% hate them and the rest are ambivalent or feel there's as much good as bad?

[Fury]

It's not that it automatically replaces original campaigns, exactly the opposite. It'll only be recommended if it lives up to the expectations. And depending on how much of a rework it'll end up to be, the less chance there is for it to be recommended as first to play. Regardless of how it'll be received in the community, I still want to pursue it.

[TrashMan]

I'm willing to lend a hand to the project.

[Snail]

I'd be willing to help too, but whether that help is necessary (or desired...) is another matter.