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Re: Commander of CVN-65 (USS Enterprise) under investigation
Would you feel comfortable talking to an XO that said anyone with problems were "bleeding hearts" or "f*****s"?



frankly, if you take it personally or seriously to begin with, you probably deserve to be mocked a bit. It wasn't meant to be hurtful, it was just the subject that was joked about that everyone's pissed about. If it had been about middle class white people, there wouldn't have been as much of a problem. If it was a persistant series of attacks on a specific group, and my understanding is that it was a single video, then it should be stopped. Jokingly targeting a group of people with the intent of comedic effect isn't bad, so long as it doesn't progress to harassment. The fact of the matter is that homosexuals unfortunetly lend themselves to be joked about, which is why they specifically were targetted.

Personally, I don't find the vid all that funny.
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Re: Commander of CVN-65 (USS Enterprise) under investigation
Would you feel comfortable talking to an XO that said anyone with problems were "bleeding hearts" or "f*****s"?



frankly, if you take it personally or seriously to begin with, you probably deserve to be mocked a bit. It wasn't meant to be hurtful, it was just the subject that was joked about that everyone's pissed about. If it had been about middle class white people, there wouldn't have been as much of a problem. If it was a persistant series of attacks on a specific group, and my understanding is that it was a single video, then it should be stopped. Jokingly targeting a group of people with the intent of comedic effect isn't bad, so long as it doesn't progress to harassment. The fact of the matter is that homosexuals unfortunetly lend themselves to be joked about, which is why they specifically were targetted.

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frankly, if you take it personally or seriously to begin with, you probably deserve to be mocked a bit. It wasn't meant to be hurtful, it was just the subject that was joked about that everyone's pissed about. If it had been about middle class white people, there wouldn't have been as much of a problem. If it was a persistant series of attacks on a specific group, and my understanding is that it was a single video, then it should be stopped. Jokingly targeting a group of people with the intent of comedic effect isn't bad, so long as it doesn't progress to harassment. The fact of the matter is that homosexuals unfortunetly lend themselves to be joked about, which is why they specifically were targetted.

Personally, I don't find the vid all that funny.

Except that it's not okay to turn a group of people into a joke.

 

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Titan, do you honestly believe that?

 

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frankly, if you take it personally or seriously to begin with, you probably deserve to be mocked a bit. It wasn't meant to be hurtful, it was just the subject that was joked about that everyone's pissed about. If it had been about middle class white people, there wouldn't have been as much of a problem. If it was a persistant series of attacks on a specific group, and my understanding is that it was a single video, then it should be stopped. Jokingly targeting a group of people with the intent of comedic effect isn't bad, so long as it doesn't progress to harassment. The fact of the matter is that homosexuals unfortunetly lend themselves to be joked about, which is why they specifically were targetted.
Actually, I don't really have a problem with what you're saying, apart from the context in which you're saying it. The rest of what you said is applicable, IMO, if the joke made was something other than about a group of people who've been on the receiving end of the **** for much longer than they deserve.

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Jokingly targeting a group of people with the intent of comedic effect isn't bad, so long as it doesn't progress to harassment.
I agree, but remember that in this case, homosexual people are always targeted, and the fact that it's 'the navy' doesn't really make it any better. For that group of people, a helluva lot of this stuff constitutes as harassment.

The military is unfortunately a place where homosexuals are discriminated against already, and this **** doesn't help.

How about this, what if the XO called the crew a bunch of 'n******' instead of 'f******' and bleeding hearts or whatever? Does that make those who take it personally deserving of mockery?

  

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just FYI this is a really funny website - stuff white people like

it's okay for the same reason that making fun of the president is okay but making fun of babies with cleft palates isn't

although that's kind of hilarious too

this is a concept we call 'privilege' and it is used to describe the differential power distribution between groups; groups that lack privilege suffer more harm from 'good fun' in measures that are actually quantifiable in the lab

 

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I think it might be an American thing?

 

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I think it might be an American thing?

If so its a specific American thing.  I didn't get it either, maybe my Yuppie awareness isn't high enough.
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If so, then I'm a yuppie.

 

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Yeah, I haven't heard of more than half the stuff on the first two pages alone.

 

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frankly, if you take it personally or seriously to begin with, you probably deserve to be mocked a bit. It wasn't meant to be hurtful, it was just the subject that was joked about that everyone's pissed about. If it had been about middle class white people, there wouldn't have been as much of a problem. If it was a persistant series of attacks on a specific group, and my understanding is that it was a single video, then it should be stopped. Jokingly targeting a group of people with the intent of comedic effect isn't bad, so long as it doesn't progress to harassment. The fact of the matter is that homosexuals unfortunetly lend themselves to be joked about, which is why they specifically were targetted.

Okay, I'm just going to assume A) you've never served and B) you've never felt uncomfortable talking with your boss at work.
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Okay, I'm just going to assume A) you've never served and B) you've never felt uncomfortable talking with your boss at work.

On some level the service typically requires you to grow a thicker skin towards whatever it is that pisses you off most, as a deliberate act.

That is however the job of a Chief. Not the XO, where such behavior as this remains unacceptable.
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What have you done Jean Luc Picard, Riker...DATA??? :))

How did this video get to the news anyway?
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