[Hades]

The reason it could hurt it is because shields weren't even on the Lucifer in that mission, afaik.

[ssmit132]

Unfortunately, soon after we arrived in the system, we encountered a Lucifer superdestroyer. While our weaponry was strong enough to pierce the Lucifer's shields, we were barely holding our own. We were very lucky your ships arrived when they did, as we were unsure how long we would have been able to hold out.

So GTVA weapons, at least, can do damage to shielded Lucifers.

[kir2yar]

Here comes the second question:
Is it possible to weaken the shields of Lucifer?
For example something like a cap-sized GTW-19 Circe?

[MatthTheGeek]

The reason it could hurt it is because shields weren't even on the Lucifer in that mission, afaik.

We're talking fluff here, not ingame mechanics.

[-Norbert-]

If the Vishnan Megabomb can hurt the Lucifer, it can probably be hurt by some other FS2 era warship weapons. Probably unloading a swarm of Apocalypse can still do the same.

If I remember the techroom explenation correctly, Vishnan bombs utilize subspace in some way to deliver their damage, so that might be the reason why they can pierce Lucy shields.

But that wouldn't explain why the GTVA bombers were able to damage the Luficer in that mission. For that I have a theory though:
The GTVA beams pierced the Lucifers shields. Because their shields were of little use, they shut them down and re-routed the power into weapons, so they were able to fire all four beams at once, maybe even at higher damage output than usual.

[MatthTheGeek]

... How many times have we been over this, really ?

[Nohiki]

... How many times have we been over this, really ?

Not enough times, obviously

[Ryuseiken]

It's the modern day's Kennedy assassination. You can never stop the speculation.

[Flak]

For sure, even the UEF weapons were not available during FS1, and most ships are still armed with those blob turrets which were designed strictly to engage unshielded targets. The biggest weapon back then was the Harbinger bombs, which was decommissioned in favor of the newer Cyclops and Helios.   Most UEF torpedoes are anti matter based however, so it may be somewhat effective against shields assuming it scores a direct hit. Not sure how is the performance of the railguns on shielded targets though, I assume the capital ship version is the uprated version of the Archer.

[NGTM-1R]

... How many times have we been over this, really ?

If it bothers you.

GET OUT.

[IvKir]

I think railguns and mass drivers still can hit the shield. Because we, how i put it... fire a big metal (or not metal) thing, using a giant accelerator, am i right?

And we know that shields don't protect you from short collisions. Or maybe a missed something in canon

[Hades]

Actually, that's always been weird. A shield protects you against projectiles (missiles, avenger, flail, etc) yet it doesn't protect you from other matter (collisions with solid objects)?

[IvKir]

Maybe it's a matter of mass and speed? I mean flail, and missiles is actualy tiny objects, compared to ships and warships. And maybe shields can protect you from something small, but when object is big and have a much more mass, then they are just don't work?

[Nohiki]

Ibelieve that preventing something big (fighter for example) outside takes just too much power over the time period, while when the shield is impacted by short, even though very frequent burst (maxim) the breakes allow it to recharge. It may actually have something to do with the mass that needs to be redirected, as maxim rounds are tiny. Plus, deflecting kinetic power has to take quite more energy than plasma, because it can't be redirected with just electric force field, while ionized gas can.

[General Battuta]

Actually, that's always been weird. A shield protects you against projectiles (missiles, avenger, flail, etc) yet it doesn't protect you from other matter (collisions with solid objects)?

The shield turns the fast blow, admits the slow kindjal.

[-Norbert-]

If two fighters crash head on while on full afterburner speed, they have relative speed to each other higher than most missiles.... or primaries for the matter if they are both interceptors.
But the shields still don't prevent any damage in that situation, so the the Stargate-like shields (or at least personal shields. Starship shields work different in SG too) theory doesn't really hold true to ingame.

[General Battuta]

I was just being all snooty and making a Dune reference.

[-Norbert-]

Forgot all about the old Dune film I thought you'd refer to Stargate and the personal shields the Goa'uld used there.

[General Battuta]

The book, the book! The movie was bad.

[Nohiki]