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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Volition: 'We'd Kill To Make FreeSpace 3' on Nowgamer.com
Don't let yourselves fall into the trap of thinking there was a Grand Plan which has yet to be revealed. They changed writers (for the better) between FS1 and FS2 and overhauled their entire narrative approach. The same would probably have happened again for 3.

 

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Re: Volition: 'We'd Kill To Make FreeSpace 3' on Nowgamer.com
Oh, I know that there's not some Secret Master Design Document tucked away in a safe in :v:'s offices.  But still, given that many of the key players still work there, I have fairly high confidence that they'd come up with something pretty damn awesome.

 

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Oh, I know that there's not some Secret Master Design Document tucked away in a safe in :v:'s offices.  But still, given that many of the key players still work there, I have fairly high confidence that they'd come up with something pretty damn awesome.

I'm with the goose on that. Also, I don't think HLP modbased cannon is mutually exclusive to Volition cannon. I'm a pretty big fan of alternate history and have no problems with multiple renditions of a plot. If anything it only enhances a story for me to guess what could have been if X happened. I thought NTV was a great idea for a project.


Besides, you know what kind of crazy cool new features and mod tools they would come out with?!? Especially since they know there's a modding community who would make use if it? New weapons anyone? New ships? Heart stopping Backgrounds and effects? A new freespace game by many of the origional devs 10+ years later taking advantage of next-gen technology? I mean you should all be SCREAMING for this!! What's this debate about?
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Oh, I know that there's not some Secret Master Design Document tucked away in a safe in :v:'s offices.  But still, given that many of the key players still work there, I have fairly high confidence that they'd come up with something pretty damn awesome.

I'm with the goose on that. Also, I don't think HLP modbased cannon is mutually exclusive to Volition cannon. I'm a pretty big fan of alternate history and have no problems with multiple renditions of a plot. If anything it only enhances a story for me to guess what could have been if X happened. I thought NTV was a great idea for a project.


Besides, you know what kind of crazy cool new features and mod tools they would come out with?!? Especially since they know there's a modding community who would make use if it? New weapons anyone? New ships? Heart stopping Backgrounds and effects? A new freespace game by many of the origional devs 10+ years later taking advantage of next-gen technology? I mean you should all be SCREAMING for this!! What's this debate about?
Exactly what I want to hear. :yes:

 

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Re: Volition: 'We'd Kill To Make FreeSpace 3' on Nowgamer.com
Hmm if only...       They should make FS3...  Praying to God for  that  DAY...

 

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Oh, I know that there's not some Secret Master Design Document tucked away in a safe in :v:'s offices.  But still, given that many of the key players still work there, I have fairly high confidence that they'd come up with something pretty damn awesome.

I'm with the goose on that. Also, I don't think HLP modbased cannon is mutually exclusive to Volition cannon. I'm a pretty big fan of alternate history and have no problems with multiple renditions of a plot. If anything it only enhances a story for me to guess what could have been if X happened. I thought NTV was a great idea for a project.


Besides, you know what kind of crazy cool new features and mod tools they would come out with?!? Especially since they know there's a modding community who would make use if it? New weapons anyone? New ships? Heart stopping Backgrounds and effects? A new freespace game by many of the origional devs 10+ years later taking advantage of next-gen technology? I mean you should all be SCREAMING for this!! What's this debate about?

Although I wouldn't mind a Freespace 3, I understand the sentiments. It's because, in many ways, the modding community has outgrown the original universe.

 

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Re: Volition: 'We'd Kill To Make FreeSpace 3' on Nowgamer.com
it's CANON damn it CANON

 

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Re: Volition: 'We'd Kill To Make FreeSpace 3' on Nowgamer.com
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Re: Volition: 'We'd Kill To Make FreeSpace 3' on Nowgamer.com
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ttuta loose it.
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Re: Volition: 'We'd Kill To Make FreeSpace 3' on Nowgamer.com
The cannon is now more canon:
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Re: Volition: 'We'd Kill To Make FreeSpace 3' on Nowgamer.com
Their story. Their rights. I trust them to do a good job, their 2 for 2 on that so far.

I'm going to reach waaaay back and take issue with this comment. In the end, storytelling is not a profession of the gifted few who Have Talent And Shall Dictate What Is Done. If you doubt me, hop on over to the games forum and witness the *****ing about pretty much any game released in the last two years. Or you can try to explain the popularity of Twilight, either way.

A story is a cooperative effort between those who created it and those who consume it. Audiences demand different things. A new FS3 would probably horrify us because the demands of the wider audience have changed over the years. But that does not make us wrong in whatever criticisms we would level at it.

While I personally do not believe in the "Death of the Author" premise since I am an author, and I have on occasion adopted the "damn the audience" approach as well, I would never pretend that a story belongs solely to me. I am its creator, but I am not its keeper.
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Re: Volition: 'We'd Kill To Make FreeSpace 3' on Nowgamer.com
...nice point, but that barely is related to what he said, and even less to the topic.

What he said is true. They will be writing the story, and they will have the rights to it. If his trust is misplaced, and V caters to the mass audience and leaves out bits that would only make sense to the hardcore fans, then so be it. They have the right to do that.
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...nice point, but that barely is related to what he said, and even less to the topic.

What he said is true. They will be writing the story, and they will have the rights to it. If his trust is misplaced, and V caters to the mass audience and leaves out bits that would only make sense to the hardcore fans, then so be it. They have the right to do that.

Ah, but it does.

Because it isn't their story. Once it leaves the author's possession the story is no longer under their control. It belongs to the people who read/play/watch it. It is our story now, and the story of anyone who has played. Our opinions, and the opinions of anyone who can form one that isn't violating some form of good storytelling like continuity, on a continuation of that story and how it should be done are at least as valid as theirs by now, because we are the keepers of the FreeSpace story.
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Re: Volition: 'We'd Kill To Make FreeSpace 3' on Nowgamer.com
Volition cannon

"We'd kill to make Freespace 3"

That's far too hilarious for me to be offended by it.
Anyways, I believe you all get what I was trying to say. Thanks for the spelling lesson.
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PEW PEW! VOLITION CANNON SHOOT!