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Offline Dark Hunter

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English for non-English speakers
on: March 02, 2011, 02:34:40 am
Apparently, some Italian guy Adriano Celentano wrote a gibberish song to illustrate what English sounds like to non-English speakers, and its name is...

Prisencolinensinainciusol

Is that really how we sound?  :wtf:
« Last Edit: March 02, 2011, 02:59:40 pm by Dark Hunter »
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Offline Sololop

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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #1 on: March 02, 2011, 06:29:18 am
I just love the dancing!
 

Offline Shade

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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #2 on: March 02, 2011, 07:25:37 am
Not far off, for stereotypical American English anyway - It does sound much like that. British accents are an entirely different story, though. Actually speaking the language just made it worse, too, since I kept trying to catch the words which my subconcious was insisting I'd be able to hear if I just concentrated, despite intellectually knowing that it was all gibberish.
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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #3 on: March 02, 2011, 07:45:57 am
Something about this song is bizarrely unnerving
 

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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #4 on: March 02, 2011, 08:29:49 am
It boggles the mind... I should show it some of my non-english speaking friends.
 

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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 08:46:19 am
Quote from: Ransom on March 02, 2011, 07:45:57 am
Something about this song is bizarrely unnerving

Is it that sense of elided meaning, gibbering at the edge of awareness?

Are these the secret utterings of the prophets of Shub-Niggurath, the Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young?
 

Offline Kolgena

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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #6 on: March 02, 2011, 09:31:07 am
This is actually really well done.
 

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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #7 on: March 02, 2011, 09:43:19 am
It's interesting that, despite being gibberish, it appears to have syntax.  I'm with Shade - I knew it was gibberish, but I kept trying to make out words anyway because it sounded like I should be able to.

Language is so bizarre.
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Offline Kolgena

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Reply #8 on: March 02, 2011, 10:40:27 am
I can still remember when english was legitimately gibberish to me, and this gave me a feeling that was pretty close to the real thing.
 

Offline peterv

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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #9 on: March 02, 2011, 10:48:14 am
Quote from: Dark Hunter on March 02, 2011, 02:34:40 am
Is that really how we sound?  :wtf:

Yeap! (And yes, i know how we Greeks sound like  :lol:)
 

Offline Col. Fishguts

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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #10 on: March 02, 2011, 01:50:14 pm
Quote from: Dark Hunter on March 02, 2011, 02:34:40 am
Apparently, some Italian guy ....

You should feel ashamed for not knowing that this guy is Adriano Celentano... Italys greatest singer/actor/TV host for the last 50 years. He was kind of a big deal in Europe through the 70s/80s.

Also, yes English actually sounds a lot like that to non-native speakers.
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Offline Solatar

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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #11 on: March 02, 2011, 02:02:30 pm
It's a good video to show English-only speakers when teaching them a foreign language.  Many (mostly at the high school level) seem to think that if you just re-arrange English sounds, you get different words, and BAM you've got a foreign language.  This video clearly shows that the sound system is just as important in a language as what order you arrange the sounds in.

Hella cool too.   :yes:

Also, something for you Brits to chew on.  Sample of West Frisian:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMMEgutjeGA

The sound system is very, very close to British English.  Not as close as the Italian gibberish is to American English, but the best thing I knew of.

EDIT: A news broadcast:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE4-mFqkS4E

It's definitely NOT English, but sometimes you feel like if you'd only listen a little harder it would make sense.
 

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Reply #12 on: March 02, 2011, 02:19:01 pm
yeah, I can see how this would sound like English to someone who doesn't speak the language.
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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #13 on: March 02, 2011, 02:35:26 pm
Quote from: General Battuta on March 02, 2011, 08:46:19 am
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Reply #14 on: March 02, 2011, 02:39:25 pm
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Offline Dark Hunter

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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #15 on: March 02, 2011, 02:57:59 pm
Quote from: Col. Fishguts on March 02, 2011, 01:50:14 pm
Quote from: Dark Hunter on March 02, 2011, 02:34:40 am
Apparently, some Italian guy ....

You should feel ashamed for not knowing that this guy is Adriano Celentano... Italys greatest singer/actor/TV host for the last 50 years. He was kind of a big deal in Europe through the 70s/80s.

Sorry, but I'm not exactly current on who's popular in America, let alone another continent. :p
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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #16 on: March 02, 2011, 04:04:40 pm
This is exactly how English sounded when I didn't really speak it.

That being said, this video is very creepy.
 

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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #17 on: March 02, 2011, 04:08:28 pm
Reminds me of a Catherine Tate comedy sketch for some reason, which was poking fun at English stereotypes of other languages...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNKn5ykP9PU
 

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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #18 on: March 02, 2011, 05:19:12 pm
I think I may have seen this a long time ago, but it's still pretty wild.  It's interesting to think about what various languages sound like to people who speak various other language.  I've watched a decent amount of anime in Japanese, so I'm generally very familiar with how that sounds, but something like Chinese still comes across as incredibly harsh to my ears.  A few really crazy instances I've heard involve someone speaking in Japanese with something like an Italian or German accent. :p
 

Offline Dark Hunter

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Re: English for non-English speakers
Reply #19 on: March 03, 2011, 01:56:05 am
Quote from: Flipside on March 02, 2011, 04:08:28 pm
Reminds me of a Catherine Tate comedy sketch for some reason, which was poking fun at English stereotypes of other languages...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNKn5ykP9PU

Castilian Spanish must sound very different from Mexican Spanish, because that sounded nothing like Spanish to my ears.
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