[Phantom Hoover]

Amiga intro was better. Now that Braben's finally scrounged enough money to bother with making Elite 4, it'll be interesting to see how it compares to X: Rebirth. (Actually, that really goes for the Kickstarter renaissance as a whole: we're going to have a lot of fairly similar games aiming to come out around the same time.)

[Colonol Dekker]

Elite IV?

There's an Elite III???

[Deathsnake]

Elite IV?

There's an Elite III???

First Encounters is Part 3.

Elite 2

[Colonol Dekker]

First encounters.......

[AdmiralRalwood]

... they've stated many, many times that there will never be multiplayer in the X series.

Sorry, but that's just not true. The major aim still is the creation of a X-Online Universe and X: Rebirth is one step closer to that goal. It's engine is build the way to add PvP games in later development. It's just that Egosoft can't afford the money to produce the XOU game they want, so they're producing singleplayer games to get the money collected, though X3 Reunion up to X3 Albion Prelude ended in a financial disaster for the company, so it was for a period of time even questionable if X Rebirth would ever be released under the flag of Deep Silver.

Okay, turns out on closer inspection that the "100% absolutely not" answer was specifically regarding the old X3 engine, but regardless, X: Rebirth will not have multiplayer "on release" (and no guarantee it will ever come after release, either).

[starbug]

Well it certinaly looks pretty, but biggest gripe with the X series was for me i found it to slow to get into, same with the combat. So i hope they make things a bit more faster. But why are all space games these days slow vast trading/exploring/weak story etc or MMOs? why cant we get something more like FS?? fast, furious, good pacing and a good story.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Well it certinaly looks pretty, but biggest gripe with the X series was for me i found it to slow to get into, same with the combat. So i hope they make things a bit more faster. But why are all space games these days slow vast trading/exploring/weak story etc or MMOs? why cant we get something more like FS?? fast, furious, good pacing and a good story.

Well as mentioned a few times, that Starlight Inception is coming out sometime. It's purely a mission-based combat game from what I can tell.
Though it's not exactly AAA.

But yes that was my main gripe with that Starcitizen or whatever. Soon as I heard it was an MMO I was out. I want SP campaign.

[MatthTheGeek]

But yes that was my main gripe with that Starcitizen or whatever. Soon as I heard it was an MMO I was out. I want SP campaign.

You mean the game that primarily ships with a 50+ missions SP/coop campaign, at least 6 months before the persistant universe part gets released ?

Not even mentionning the multiple additional mission packs they're gonna release for free on top of that.

[Patriot]

But yes that was my main gripe with that Starcitizen or whatever. Soon as I heard it was an MMO I was out. I want SP campaign.

You mean the game that primarily ships with a 50+ missions SP/coop campaign, at least 6 months before the persistant universe part gets released ?

Not even mentionning the multiple additional mission packs they're gonna release for free on top of that.

you forgot to mention the name Matth.

It's Squadron 42, running on the same engine in the same world basically. But as Matth said, SP and Co-op :3

[MatthTheGeek]

Squadron 42 is the name of the campaign, not the name of the game. The game is still Star Citizen.

Much like how Operation Templar is a campaign for the game Freespace 2.

[Deepstar]

Uh X-Rebirth... even i own the whole series, i do not like the games after X-Tension very much, X2 was the best of the remaining ones. I think the series lost it's track during the sequels and it seems, that it do not know itself, what it want to be.

I hope X-Rebirth go back some steps and remember its roots from X-Beyond the Frontier more. Then it could be the first X title since X-T i can enjoy.


Even i think, that X-Rebirth will make more fun than "Star Payer".


And i love the universe, so i hope i can have an enjoying return in the future. My biggest fan-fiction work played in this universe and is even much longer than my 11 season long FreeSpace: Dark Abyss - Refallen series, even i only in writing of Season 10 right now  . Unfortunately especially for the Freespace Community everything in german ^^.

[Belisarius]

Deeeepy! Don't worry 'bout that. There are some who still can enjoy and have so.

However, X Rebirth looks quite promising to me. So lets wait what the first reviews say and then I'll make my decission.

[Colonol Dekker]

Any chance of a translation?

[Akalabeth Angel]

But yes that was my main gripe with that Starcitizen or whatever. Soon as I heard it was an MMO I was out. I want SP campaign.

You mean the game that primarily ships with a 50+ missions SP/coop campaign, at least 6 months before the persistant universe part gets released ?

Not even mentionning the multiple additional mission packs they're gonna release for free on top of that.

Well the initial SP campaign sounded like it was a short affair that merely served as an introduction to the MMO. With additional SP campaigns appearing later, presumably after the player had been required to play the MMO portion of the game to unlock them or build up to them. Basically a glorified tutorial. If that's changed and it's now a proper campaign I may be convinced to check it out but the initial reports of what it was going to be was not that at all.

[MatthTheGeek]

Might I suggest discussing this on the SC thread ?

[AdmiralRalwood]

Uh X-Rebirth... even i own the whole series, i do not like the games after X-Tension very much, X2 was the best of the remaining ones. I think the series lost it's track during the sequels and it seems, that it do not know itself, what it want to be.

Even though X3: Reunion was the first game where scripters could add their own hotkeys, X3: Terran Conflict was the first game to ditch the superfluous Alpha/Beta shenanigans and give us a proper spread of weapons, and X3: Albion Prelude was the first one to incorporate proper OOS combat balance?

I was plenty fond of X2 back when it came out, but having recently replayed it for the nostalgia factor, I can honestly say I did not miss the old menu system. Terran Conflict remains the oldest game in the series I can recommend to newcomers.

[Mikes]

Even i think, that X-Rebirth will make more fun than "Star Payer".

You don't intend to pay for X then, huh? ;P

[TrashMan]

X was a good series. Partially because of a great community.

There are many scripts and ships that add more depth and variety or simplify things.

Personally, the first one (atmosphere, story) and Terran Conflict (vastness, diversity, immursion) remain my favorites.
I do feel like the story has been becoming progresively worse tough.

[Grizzly]

X was a good series. Partially because of a great community.

There are many scripts and ships that add more depth and variety or simplify things.

Personally, the first one (atmosphere, story) and Terran Conflict (vastness, diversity, immursion) remain my favorites.
I do feel like the story has been becoming progresively worse tough.

Disagree, it's more of a back and forth. I personally thought that X3: Reunion's story was quite  a bit better then X2's (although I haven't played the first). The dialogue was quite well written in that one, something which Terran Conflict lacked (they did hire a professional for Reunion, shame they didn't think about that later).

[Flipside]

I notice that Rebirth is up for pre-order on Steam, seriously thinking about it but it's still a bit early at the moment, I'll spend my money a bit closer to the release date.