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Offline Mars

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
Aren't those just voices in Laporte's head?

I think it goes a bit deeper than as far as you're looking.

 

Offline Ypoknons

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
Ok, I certainly phrased that misleadingly. Certainly they are voices in Laporte's head, but at the same time voices in the head have significance in BP because we know they probably come from powerful alienz. Nevertheless, I don't see any reason to see them as any more than the powers that may be speaking to Laporte, rather than the plot speaking to the player.
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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
Ken certainly seems to try to turn the war into one of annihilation, with one side being completely wiped out, but that doesn't mean he's going to be successfull.

 

Offline Kosh

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
Ken certainly seems to try to turn the war into one of annihilation, with one side being completely wiped out, but that doesn't mean he's going to be successfull.


I'm not even sure how that can happen. There's no way the UEF has anywhere near the firepower to launch a successful counter invasion plus given their dependence on missiles and rail guns for their main armaments they must be a logistical nightmare outside of Sol. The Tev side of the GTVA actually could wipe them all out, but doesn't have the will to commit enough forces to actually do so.

Although now with the Vasudans gearing up against the UEF this could change.
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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
I don't think it's important for Ken which side wins, as long as one side is going down. And the harder the UEF is fighting back, the harder the GTVA will try to beat them and thus move closer to fullfilling Kens seeming goal.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
The Tev side of the GTVA actually could wipe them all out, but doesn't have the will to commit enough forces to actually do so.

More that they don't have the logistical weight to do so.

Doesn't it seem that an unstable young woman, faced with a conflict between her deeply held beliefs and the need to hate the enemy in order to survive, might find a way to externalize that hate?  :nervous:

 

Offline Destiny

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
Materializing her hatred as a physical weapon!? C-4-1 the Shivans?!

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
Materializing her hatred as a physical weapon!?

no  :blah:

 

Offline -Sara-

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
I don't think it's important for Ken which side wins, as long as one side is going down. And the harder the UEF is fighting back, the harder the GTVA will try to beat them and thus move closer to fullfilling Kens seeming goal.

Indeed, if Ken wants chaos he won't care. To even go a step further on your assessment, the harder the UEF has to fight back, the more they fall back into militant and aggressive tendencies. The whole friction between the council and the fleets is a good example of that and it always seems Laporte has saved the day so that events could unfold further.
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Offline Snail

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
Materializing her hatred as a physical weapon!? C-4-1 the Shivans?!
Taking "externalize" a bit too literally, methinks...

 

Offline Kosh

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
The Tev side of the GTVA actually could wipe them all out, but doesn't have the will to commit enough forces to actually do so.

More that they don't have the logistical weight to do so.

Doesn't it seem that an unstable young woman, faced with a conflict between her deeply held beliefs and the need to hate the enemy in order to survive, might find a way to externalize that hate?  :nervous:


You mean like schizophrenia? Hearing voices in your head kind of thing?
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline General Battuta

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
It certainly seems like a possibility for her, doesn't it?

 

Offline -Norbert-

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Yes, but as far as I know "pure" shizophrenia isn't giving you a Nagari factor of 1000.
Now the question is: Does the Nagari factor come from the visions, which are actually alien communications, or are the visions and voices a negative side-effect of the high Nagari sensitivity and Ken is in fact just a figment of her overstrained mind?

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
So we will learn that Laporte is actually the god of BP universe, unbeknownst to even herself, and that the Shivans are the creation of the internal conflict of Laporte between her peaceful drives and the need to kill humans who are out to get her because her peaceful beliefs are no match against the Shivans she created herself. Now that would be fun.

 
Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
So we will learn that Laporte is actually the god of BP universe, unbeknownst to even herself, and that the Shivans are the creation of the internal conflict of Laporte between her peaceful drives and the need to kill humans who are out to get her because her peaceful beliefs are no match against the Shivans she created herself. Now that would be fun.

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Offline Ypoknons

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
Doesn't it seem that an unstable young woman, faced with a conflict between her deeply held beliefs and the need to hate the enemy in order to survive, might find a way to externalize that hate?  :nervous:
And if this wasn't a video game, I'd believe you.

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Offline -Sara-

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
Just had a random moment of clarity. Maybe Ken really IS just a schizophrenic delusion and not a secret shivan, vishan or brahma. The whole Ken thing might be a red herring to throw the player/viewer/reader onto a false trail.
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Offline Snail

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
Or maybe someone is spiking her drinks and stuff.

 

Offline Ypoknons

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Re: War in Heaven R2 Preview (many pictures, many WORDS)
Perhaps. But she's special somehow, otherwise the Elder wouldn't have messaged her.

Unless she was just going Noemi, you must get some fried chicken for Martin on the way back.
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Offline -Sara-

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Perhaps. But she's special somehow, otherwise the Elder wouldn't have messaged her.

Unless she was just going Noemi, you must get some fried chicken for Martin on the way back.

Special is also a synonym for negatively different. :P But I'm sure Noemi plays a very special role, or she wouldn't be the PC (player character).
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