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Offline Stryke 9

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Im a Republican, i was just stating the facts. Still we could never get rid of them funny as they run that religion.

Also World War 4 would not be fought with sticks and stones, because we have computer power. We can store information in bunkers(which they did/do during the late 20th) etc and store equipment for war.

About Saddamn, the only thing keeping him around is the Muslim states around him and pretty soon its going to turn sour for him, when we start bombing all his complexes. Saddamn is luckily enough so insane, he believes he could win, Saddamn has never had the chance to nuke anyone because theres a big no fly zone which we patrol. Stability in Iraq? Well i dont know what you call stability these days oh yes, he used to bomb and use bio/chem weapons his own people before we set up the no-fly zone, such a "brilliant" leader isnt he?


I really don't know where to begin- whether with the fact that nuclear weapons have a tendency toward catastrophic electromagnetic distortion, which would wipe everything computer-based within a quite large radius, or whether to point out that Saddam isn't really very popular with his neighbors, either, and doesn't think he could win, and has made that fact quite apparent.

And when, exactly, did he use bioweapons on his own people? Part of the problem with saying asnything coherent about Saddam is that in the past few decades literally NO solid infarmation has gotten to the public about him, and what there is is given an obvious, and rather silly, propogandic spin. Perhaps he really is the Antichrist and planning to dominate the world and kill everybody including himself with an incurable anthrax plague, but if that's not true, next to nothing that is ever reported about him is, and considering how he has yet to actually USE any bioweapons, it seems to me to be highly unlikely. In short: You don't know ****, I don't know ****, nobody knows ****, so let's talk about something else.

 

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You know why all you people are anti-American?  Because the Americans are on top.  If it was the brits on top you'd the spewing the exact same thing except replacing 'Bush' with 'Blair'.


Too true.
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Shrike: Your point being? Nobody likes an imperialist superpower. The name makes no difference, nor does which foreign culture is being imposed on the oppressed majority of he world. Doesn't vindicate the US.
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Yes we in the "All Mighty Evilly Over-Powering United States" are just bastards :wtf:

Yea we only fight for the $$ right? Hitler....that jerk had SO much cash flow and oil rigs and tech that we just HAD to kick his tail and end WW2 ...but for our OWN reasons.

PPl....get a clue...K Mart $1.99

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Shrike: Your point being? Nobody likes an imperialist superpower. The name makes no difference, nor does which foreign culture is being imposed on the opressed majority of he world. Doesn't vindicate the US.


I fully agree. The US should lock it's borders for the next 25 years....then reopen...sweep up the dust and make 50,000 more strip malls.

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Shrike: Your point being? Nobody likes an imperialist superpower. The name makes no difference, nor does which foreign culture is being imposed on the oppressed majority of he world. Doesn't vindicate the US.
Well, I suppose we should build a mile-high wall around the entire North American continent.  Stop foreign aid, stuff like that.
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YOu start on the west and I'll take the east ? ;)
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And when, exactly, did he use bioweapons on his own people? Part of the problem with saying asnything coherent about Saddam is that in the past few decades literally NO solid infarmation has gotten to the public about him, and what there is is given an obvious, and rather silly, propogandic spin. Perhaps he really is the Antichrist and planning to dominate the world and kill everybody including himself with an incurable anthrax plague, but if that's not true, next to nothing that is ever reported about him is, and considering how he has yet to actually USE any bioweapons, it seems to me to be highly unlikely. In short: You don't know ****, I don't know ****, nobody knows ****, so let's talk about something else.



He might not have used bioweapons, but he did nerve gas his own citizens.  Do a google search for "halabja" (the city that was gassed)
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Well, I suppose we should build a mile-high wall around the entire North American continent.  Stop foreign aid, stuff like that.


Who says there's a solution that the country would go through with? Eventually, the US will wane in power, until it reaches a certain crisis point, and then it will collapse. After a while, some new superpower will appear. Happens all the time- nothing particularly new, shocking, or wrong with it, in fact it's likely life will continue much as always after a short disruption.

 

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"Happens all the time" eh ? :wtf:

And just HOW many countries that were superpowers HAVE fallen ?

USSR Gee wonder why? Possibly the fact that most of the general public couldn't afford a decent lifestyle ?

Hmmmm....others........hmmmmmm .......NONE

Japan COULD be argued as falling with the bombing in WW2 ....yet in under 50 years they're even stronger...thus...not fallen.

So...WHEN are you referring to happens all the time? TV or Movies?
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British Empire, Spain, Rome, Greece, Babylon, Ur. To name a few.

 
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You know why all you people are anti-American?  Because the Americans are on top.  If it was the brits on top you'd the spewing the exact same thing except replacing 'Bush' with 'Blair'.

I've been saying some of the most anti-American things on this thread.  Yet I myself am American.
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And you said super powers....not just powers dude.

Rome's the closest to a Super Power in the list...yet the simple concept of the time of Rome AND the fact that ONE man ran the boat closed them out.

I'm talking countires that could become self reliant if they had to. Not getting into the Trade debate  lol But you know what I mean.

China...Japan...the old USSR,...USA...the ones that could hold their own in and out of combat.
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This should help :)

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su·per·pow·er   Pronunciation Key  (spr-pour)
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     A powerful and influential nation, especially a nuclear power that dominates its allies or client states in an international power bloc.



 Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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And you said super powers....not just powers dude.

Rome's the closest to a Super Power in the list...yet the simple concept of the time of Rome AND the fact that ONE man ran the boat closed them out.

I'm talking countires that could become self reliant if they had to. Not getting into the Trade debate  lol But you know what I mean.

China...Japan...the old USSR,...USA...the ones that could hold their own in and out of combat.



Er... I restate my list. In their time, they ALL were superpowers, and there were many more like them. You need to brush up on your history, dude. Babylon in its heyday would have made the US look like a microstate in relative influence.

 

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So they all held sway of international politics and so forth ?

Besides...you can't say Babylon collapsed...didn't God smite them or something ?
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There was no "international" to have politics with. They didn't ever know of anything more than 500 miles from their own nation, and thus their power over their world was absolute.

Er... no.

Why are you trying to make excuses for these formerly powerful nations anyway? Does nothing ever happen to the US, or something? Yes, they all fell because of something, they didn't just magically vanish. So?:wtf:

 

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Bush isn't evil. He's stupid. And Clinton was a good president. Sure, there was Monica Lewinski, but America was at the best condition in years thanks to him. And more importantly he wasn't lazy or stupid like Bush.

bad president=popular
good president=unpopular

Bin Laden is also responsible for making Bush popular! Arrrrrrgggggg!!!!!!
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You just made most of my point. You listed "super" powers that didn't even KNOW anything but themselves for the most point. A True superpower isn't a "big badass with a nuke" it's a country that is a MAJOR factor in global politics and economy. Thus citing thus examples wasn't truely correct. They aren't even classified as superpowers by definition.

So the comment of "it happens to them all" doesn't really fit. Most of the examples you gave for it fell do to reasons that didn't even involve another country,...or with Babylon another human :p (If you go for the bible...as for true history...noone has a clue. )

Honestly if the US "falls" I seriously belive it would be because we stretch ourselves too thin to assist other countries that just ***** about us for other things or because too many times we've "turned the other cheek" or "been the bigger 'man/woman/ppl/whatever". That's why I was impressed with the US finally saying enough and going to kick some ass after 9/11.

But the truest fact of all. The US ....for better or worse...has always attempted to help other countries .....and been **** on for it,...conclusion...screw them and look out for #1.
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So... a superpower isn't a nation that rules over the entire known world, it's a nation that rules EVERYTHING.

In which case, we have yet to conquer Mars, much less Alpha Proximae and the galaxies beyond our own. So the US is not a superpower. Nor is any other nation that is, was, or will be.