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That is awesome.

 

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So, uh, what's the verdict on what the big bullseye on the side does? :P
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So, uh, what's the verdict on what the big bullseye on the side does? :P
Light up and look pretty. Nothing has been designed for it, dunno if anything will be. It does its current job very well:
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I always thought it was a giant docking port.  That's where the ship hooked up for resupply.
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I always thought it was a giant docking port.  That's where the ship hooked up for resupply.

Same here, but the airlock we use was the one marked as the docking point.


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BTW, what server is this on?  I want to see it in person as it were.
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BTW, what server is this on?  I want to see it in person as it were.

qaz's see the details in the OP
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BTW, what server is this on?  I want to see it in person as it were.

qaz's see the details in the OP

Well, see the OP Here. It's on Rhx/Qaz's server.
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Thank you, wasn't sure where exactly it was.
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After a tour of the ship, I have to say, good work guys.  It looks very good.

Suggestions for future additions:

A proper mess and galley.  Yes, you have the lounge, but there should be a very basic mess for the crew to eat at.

Ammunition storage.  The Fenris originally came with a missile launcher, so their should be a place to store that.

A brig, every ship has a brig somewhere.  Also a security office and various weapon lockers.

A laundry.

Crew quarters (bunkbeds, of course).

I know I saw the reactor, but where are the subspace coils?  They're supposed to be big, so they should be somewhere in the hull (forward section perhaps?).

Auxiliary control, in case the CiC gets taken out.

Cargo stores.

When I get some time, I'll try to help, but I have other projects first.
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You suppose when this is done a video would make it to the MineCraftForum front page?
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You suppose when this is done a video would make it to the MineCraftForum front page?

Well, I just took a peek inside. And I can say that yes, there is a very good chance that could happen.

 

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You suppose when this is done a video would make it to the MineCraftForum front page?

Well, I just took a peek inside. And I can say that yes, there is a very good chance that could happen.
I could see making a 480p tour for youtube... and for a finished Fenris I'll suffer the upload time. How far it gets is up to whether or not the people of minecraft have good taste.  :p  However, when it is done, I will be combining all of my screenshots into a nice big .7z file and putting it on mediafire, along with a link here.

After a tour of the ship, I have to say, good work guys.  It looks very good.

Suggestions for future additions:

A proper mess and galley.  Yes, you have the lounge, but there should be a very basic mess for the crew to eat at.

Ammunition storage.  The Fenris originally came with a missile launcher, so their should be a place to store that.

A brig, every ship has a brig somewhere.  Also a security office and various weapon lockers.

A laundry.

Crew quarters (bunkbeds, of course).

I know I saw the reactor, but where are the subspace coils?  They're supposed to be big, so they should be somewhere in the hull (forward section perhaps?).

Auxiliary control, in case the CiC gets taken out.

Cargo stores.

When I get some time, I'll try to help, but I have other projects first.

Ah, thank you very much for the list! there are a few things on there (*cough* Subspace Coil  :nervous:) that I know at least I didn't remember or think of.

Ideas are helpful, there is a lot of room in Fenris and it can't all be crew's quarters. Seriously, can you imagine how boring that would be?
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Yep, those are the parts of the Enterprise that didn't make it on TV on a weekly basis. :p

 

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Re: GTC Fenris in Minecraft
here is a random list, not sure which of these you have.

Machine shop

Damage control stations (lockers that contain equipment for patching hull breaches and temporarily shoring up the ship structure)

First aid points

Captain's quarters

Sensor control/equipment/maintenance room under the radar dish

food/general waste disposal/re processor

bathroom/toilets

Air Handling Compartment/temperature control

Most of these are based on a schematic I dug on on the Astute class

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A proper mess and galley.  Yes, you have the lounge, but there should be a very basic mess for the crew to eat at.

Already planned. :)

Ammunition storage.  The Fenris originally came with a missile launcher, so their should be a place to store that.

I'd thought of this back at the outset but had since forgotten about it - thanks!

A brig, every ship has a brig somewhere.  Also a security office and various weapon lockers.

Ah, hadn't thought of that yet!

A laundry.

Also hadn't thought of that... not sure how we'd implement it though... dispensers maybe?

Crew quarters (bunkbeds, of course).

Yup, those will be the secondary armor layer between the outer hull and the vitals. They'll go in last, to fill up any and all unused space.

I know I saw the reactor, but where are the subspace coils?  They're supposed to be big, so they should be somewhere in the hull (forward section perhaps?).

Ahh, perfect! That's what those side red things can be, Hades! We'll have to carve out room for the internals - I'll try to do that tonight.

Auxiliary control, in case the CiC gets taken out.

Maybe, but did you see where the CIC is located? If that gets taken out, the entire ship will have been carved up already and out of commission. Still, I guess an internal problem could knock the CIC out, so this makes sense. ;)

Cargo stores.

Ooh, good one... does it make sense for the existing airlocks to be used for cargo conveyance, or should we be looking on the texture for markings to indicate secondary dock points?

When I get some time, I'll try to help, but I have other projects first.

Make sure to ask for creative mode from qaz if you get to that point... I don't think he'll hand it out willy-nilly, but for work on the Fenris he's been willing.

Machine shop

Good one. :)

Damage control stations (lockers that contain equipment for patching hull breaches and temporarily shoring up the ship structure)

First aid points

These are great ideas, they're just the thing we needed to break up the monotony of those infernally-long corridors - little alcoves scattered about.

Captain's quarters

I think Kyad may have already done those - enter thru the airlock, head forward, and turn towards the middle at the end of the corridor - there's some quarters in that cross-section.

Sensor control/equipment/maintenance room under the radar dish

Also something I had planned a while back and since forgotten - thanks. :)

food/general waste disposal/re processor

bathroom/toilets

Air Handling Compartment/temperature control

We'll probably lump all that (besides the bathrooms of course...) into one large "Environmental Control" room somewhere. :yes:

Bathrooms will be part of each officer's quarters, centrally located near crew quarters, and strategically located near crowd-gathering facilities (mess hall/lounge, bridge, engineering, etc).
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God damn it!  I know what those giant targets are on the side of the ship are!

They're the emitters for the subspace coils!

Think about:  The Fenris is old, probably the first war ship built for regular subspace travel.  Early subspace drives would have been very, very large.

It explains the design of the ship, this 4 pointed star.  At the center is the subspace drive to ensure that EVERY part of the ship is in range of the coil and it's associated repeaters.  That means the fore section is the main weapon array (which it is), top section is probably crew quarters, rear is engines, lower section being machine shop/ammunition storage.  And at it's heart is a subspace drive to make the whole thing move.

My thought on the design:  Build a plasma conduit down the center of the ship, lower end.  Have it split off to each of the new coils in the middle, and have one more branch to the fore section.  This would give a power spine to the ship and explain why the Fenris could be in continual use as it always had enough power for things like beam cannons and such.  The coils themselves should be bigger than the actual bullseyes, but not by too much.  Probably only 3 or 4 rings in, with various catwalks for maintenance.  At the center should be a giant box which is the emitter itself, and it's connected to the bullseyes.  I'm thinking use glowstone for the rings, though it would be awesome if you could make them appear to move using some cleverly built pistons.

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Yeah, I was afraid of that... not sure if we're up for a total redesign like that at this point... :-/
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I think you can do it just as it is now, actually.  The power spine can go underneath the current CIC, or you can go over if that's easier.  Split it around the elevator.

The coils don't have to stick too deep into the hull.  Maybe 10 - 15 tiles in, depending on space.  They'll still be big around, but you don't have much in the center section besides the CIC and the shaft, so there should be more than enough room.

Of course, there may only be one "coil" on each side.  A giant loop that connects back to the emitter box which then connects to the plasma conduit.  A lot of it can be "buried" in the bulkheads (AKA, not really there) and that won't take as much space up.

I think it could be done without too much fuss.  It's not like we have to get everything accurate, since there isn't anything to be accurate about.
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And I just realized you were talking about redesigning EVERYTHING.  Moving the lounge and such.  Don't worry about that.  We can claim this ship is a semi-retired museum ship, built more for wining and dining than combat.  The garden could have been an old cargo bay, the lounge a former gym that could have been used as a mess if necessary.  Leave it all just as it is and just build around the current stuff.  Like I said, it's not like we have anything to be accurate about here.
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