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Offline HoundofDarkness

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Hey Sandwiched, for the Fenris are you going to add engine flames/lights/wool?
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Hey Sandwiched, for the Fenris are you going to add engine flames/lights/wool?
I was thinking more along the lines of lava falls along the rear. Cover the lava with glass from the inside, but leave it exposed on the outside.

Hmm... after Fenris is complete, how about making a subspace jump effect in front of or behind it, out of blue/white wool, lightstone, and glass? :p
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So is there any progress on the Fenris?

 

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A little bit:



Running low on cobble again if anyone wants to donate.

EDIT: and for those wondering, that tiny little thing on the front of the Fenris? that would be a person. Just to help give an idea of scale.
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What is that, a dual monorail? Nice work!

 
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Running low on cobble again if anyone wants to donate.

So that's ~24,000 plus what I'm assuming to be a steady stream of cobble from the rest of the server's participants all used up in eleven days, and the cruiser is still essentially a skeleton?  With that figure in mind, I'm not sure that I needed a picture to give me a sense of scale.

 

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Well let's do some off-the-cuff calculations here... 253m x 123m x 70m = ~ 2.1 million blocks. The Fenris occupies around 5/9ths of that if you look at it from the side, and considering that it doesn't occupy the entire side-to-side volume in that 5/9th area, we can probably guesstimate a very general figure of... 750,000m³? Someone with the actual model can probably get us an accurate figure on the volume and surface area...
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It will have usable decks and bridges and so on, right? It won't be a completely solid object, right?

 

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Each horizontal 'bar' of the skeleton frame is a deck (30ish in total), top floor being the bridge. The front part being converted to a small hangar bay was also sugested, complete with fighters (it has to be big eough for atleast 4).
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Each horizontal 'bar' of the skeleton frame is a deck (30ish in total), top floor being the bridge.

That's only theoretical, mind you... let's not go filling in any more decks beyond skeleton framework quite yet. We may want to raise the ceiling height on all decks, have some higher than others, or have crawlspaces for redstone wiring in between decks.
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The idea was just to get across that it wouldnt be solid, if we realy really wanted we could take every 2 sections, use the bottom 2 blocks for redstone/floor and the remainder for the room:
 ________
|________     1 - ceiling
|                     2 - empty
|                     3 - empty
|                     4 - empty
|________     5 - empty
|________     6 - floor
|redstone       7 - redstone room
|________     8 - ceiling of deck below

Which corresponds nicely to the already existing frame, leaves room for a little redstone fun, and gives us fair sized hallways. it ALSO cuts the total number of floors to 15, so it doesnt come without drawbacks.
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It occurs to me that a ship, where space is at a premium, would have cramped and small hallways and stuff.  Like, two blocks open space per deck, not four.

 
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The idea was just to get across that it wouldnt be solid, if we realy really wanted we could take every 2 sections, use the bottom 2 blocks for redstone/floor and the remainder for the room:
 ________
|________     1 - ceiling
|                     2 - empty
|                     3 - empty
|                     4 - empty
|________     5 - empty
|________     6 - floor
|redstone       7 - redstone room
|________     8 - ceiling of deck below

Which corresponds nicely to the already existing frame, leaves room for a little redstone fun, and gives us fair sized hallways. it ALSO cuts the total number of floors to 15, so it doesnt come without drawbacks.

Your redstone deck would need to be two blocks high, if you ever want to use any logic gates or memory cells.  All you can run through a one-meter-tall space is wire and repeaters, which doesn't allow for much/anything interesting.

 

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Your redstone deck would need to be two blocks high

Thats fine because Scotty is right, 4-high is a bit too much for a military cruiser. Bump up the floor one more space so there can be double-hight for redstone:

 ________
|________     1 - ceiling
|                     2 - empty
|                     3 - empty
|________     4 - empty
|________     5 - floor
|redstone       6 - redstone 2
|redstone       7 - redstone 1
|________     8 - ceiling of deck below
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Hallway of a modern wet-navy cruiser.

Two blocks is probably as close that that as you can get.  It sure as hell isn't 10 feet from floor to ceiling.

 

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2 blocks too short for Minecraft, you'll end up feeling like you have no space to do anything. I think 3 blocks is a good compromise.
What is that, a dual monorail? Nice work!
That's been around for a long time.
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Ships don't really have space to do anything.

Besides which, what would you be doing inside the ship, anyway?

For a house, always three or four blocks.  For something that's cramped by design to make more stuff fit, two works.

 

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Well if you wanta have detailing inside those levels you'll probably need more than 2 blocks. Anyway, I agree with Sandwich, we really need to finish the outer hull before we start messing with the inside.

 

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I hate to break it to you all, but...









...the corridors are definitely closest to 3 meters. :D
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I had a whole argument prepared... but that works. :P

Where is that from anyway?