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Shall we discuss the bleak future of NASA (and my 10 pt. plan for President!)
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Anyone who knows me, knows that this post will be long, and full of parenthesis and jokes. However, I would like to have a thoughtful discussion about where YOU think the country is going. Please, no DEMO-CRAP or RE-PUBE-LICKER talking points, no swooning over Obama, and no asking for his birth certificate (we all know Donald Trump stole it), No Rush Limbaugh’s or Bill Maher’s. Sheopard Smith’s and (whoever is ACTUALLY FAIR on the other channels) are welcome, but let’s keep it light. We are all friends here, and this is a touchy subject. (Sadly)

I would like to hear your thoughts on the state of… well… THE States. (forget the money parts, wall street and all that, I'm  talking about the PEOPLE, and their slow inexorable and frankly inexplicable slide toward the butt end of the Roman Empire’s Timeline.)

So without further ado, let us wade into this moral swamp of conflicted opinion, where facts float on the top of murky liquid lies, and as we move toward each other, they mix together into an incomprehensible soup that resembles raw sewage in both odor and appearance. Finding clarity in such dirtied waters is nigh impossible without the aid of a sewage treatment plant. Please, let this topic be that purifier. And maybe, just maybe, we can find a way for people on both sides to meet in the middle and discuss ideas, rather than wield them as clubs to attack each other.
(I am not referring to this community, but rather America, and on a lesser level, the whole world. I'm not sure about anyone else, but I for one, cannot abide this cesspool, and if the waters cannot be cleaned, I think I would rather stay dry, even though the soul withers without the sustaining waters of shared thought.

Now that the foreword is out of the way, let me ask my question, say my piece, crack a joke, and then welcome yours.





When was the last time any of you can remember when we were proud of our president? (I mean REAL PRIDE, not one half of the country liking the guy cuz he's on their team, and the other half hating his guts) I think it all died around the Clinton/first Bush era. Both of ‘em were liked by MOST but not even close to ALL. And it’s only gone downhill since then. I think that, more than anything, is why both sides reference Reagan with a sense of pride and smile when they hear stories about the man. He was the last AMERICAN president. We no longer have one any more. We just have a D prez, or an R prez, and we just switch every 4 years or so. If history TRULY repeats, then let us hope we get another Reagan before the part about Rome collapsing under senatorial bickering and legislative gridlock comes around again. I think its gettin' kinda’ close. (Maybe we can go dig him up and do the “Weekend at Bernie's” thing? Whatcha' say guys? Hey, and if he wins, we get a Hard Light presidency!
I would stake every single cent I own, my life, even my immortal soul, that if ANY of us were president right now, we would get N.A.S.A. back into space, and out of the Middle East doing their Muslim outreach.
I truly want to ask those of you who support Obama, if YOU would have slashed N.A.S.A.’s budget to nothing? Would you have cancelled the next shuttle project, leaving us totally dependant on the Russians to get us into space, which we have to pay them a substantial sum for?  Now just those facts would have been the most abominable slap in the face to every hard working man and woman at NASA, nevermind the utter destruction of so many of ours and  our children’s hopes and dreams for the future.
But sadly, that was not the end of it. The poisoned blade was twisted further. Years of struggle, loss of life, blood, sweat and tears, thousands of hours of study, training, hoping, praying, for that next great leap into the heavens. The brilliant, motivated, and passionate people, for whom the phrase “To Boldly Go….” is not some iconic quote, but their very way of life, have been betrayed so deeply, that it’s a wonder the rate of people choosing to quit NASA after years, DECADES even, has only been 35%.
Their mission has been changed. They are to lower their eyes, away from the stars. That’s easy to do when your head is hanging in defeat.
NASA’s new mission is: “Muslim Outreach”
I read the report, not from a news agency, but direct from the white house website, and I cannot promise you that this is word for word, because I have tried to erase it from my memory, and would rather die than read it again. Essentially their mission is defined as this: NASA’s top level engineers, scientists, astronomers, etc, are to meet with the leaders of the Muslim world, to highlight the contribution Muslims have made to get mankind into space. Obama wants the Middle East to know that he values their insight, ideas, and sacrifices to help all mankind achieve a better future.
The very next year data was collected and it was revealed that the suicide rate among NASA employees was actually higher than that of combat soldiers suffering from PTSD.
That’s a pretty sad freaking commentary on our future.
But by far, the most egregious, and unforgivable act had to be to cancellation of the next gen spacecraft. It was already under way. It was 60% complete! They would have been able to get people back into space within 2-3 years after the shuttle was retired. I struggle very hard here to remain civil, as this was the moment that I stopped “disagreeing” with the president, and actually started HATING him. Despite multiple petitions, NASA’s management begging, and pleading, hell, even against HIS OWN advisors, he cut... no… he DESTROYED the project. He cut ALL funding, and REASSIGNED the people working on it to other areas and projects... (Like Fuc**ng Muslim Outreach!)
I think the saddest part of the whole deal is that HE absolutely WASTED a TRILLION dollars of OUR hard earned money, telling the whole world he was going to save the economy, jobs, and America as we know it. And all the lazy, ignorant ass did was write a BLANK CHECK to each state, which they promptly SQUANDERED!
NASA only needed 200 Billion. That’s all.
Obama wipes his butt with bigger piles of cash. I'm sorry, but there is NO EXCUSE for his actions. They were done out of nothing but MALICE and SPITE. (Like how he returned the Winston Churchill bust to England, which was a gift from the prime minister. Is it just a coincidence that his father, who he himself said he wanted to be just like, grew up HATING the British) if everyone in America just sent in 3 dollars and 50 cents, NASA would have had all the funding it needed. But as soon as he found out about a few people trying to organize a NASA donation drive, he did the only thing he could to kill the program, and he took away the people who were working on it, and locked it up tight so that even if they had the money and didn’t need a single penny of taxpayer money, they would not be ALLOWED to work on the project. 
Even though I am a conservative leaning social moderate, I have tried to put aside all my misgivings about his past, his words, and his actions. I have tried to ignore his hypocrisy when he asks for more civil discourse, and in the next sentence bashes everyone who isn’t on his side. I’ve done my best to let slide his many reckless actions, and his outright LIES when the facts are right in front of him, on paper, double, triple checked by number crunchers, scientists, and whoever else has to waste their time finding truth so he can dance around it, and speak over it. God forbid he is confronted with the truth, he laughs like it’s a damned joke, blames everyone but himself, and then goes on a 30 minute rant about all the good HE is doing. Not his team, not America, HIM ALONE. If he talks for more than 5 minutes you will hear the word “I” so many times, that were you to count them on paper, your pencil would run out of lead before the 2 and a half minute mark.
And he has a host of goons and mobsters in all but name, ready to yell and scream at whoever DARES question the glorious perfection that is HIM. He can do no wrong. If he says the sky is green, and let’s say, I dunno, some scientist has the nerve to try and explain that the sky is blue, due to the diffraction of sunlight by the gases in our atmosphere, letting in predominately blue light, and blocking the others, do you know what the response would be?
Simple. The scientist is disagreeing with the president, because he is a racist.
Nevermind the explanation, which is accurate, and provable. The scientist must be a racist. Why else would he go out of his way to make Obama look bad?
Then the scientist must spend months trying to prove he isn’t a racist. And the end result is that he never says anything else about it. And neither do the other scientists who agree with him. They don’t want to be shunned by society, called a racist, become a social pariah. And the result?
Everyone just comes to accept that the sky is in fact green, and sadly the whole world, save for the perfect president has a specific form of genetic color blindness.
Yes this is a silly and extreme example. But it quite handily illustrates a point, which anyone who watches more than one source of news can see for themselves.
I know I run the risk of getting slammed with the race card, for this post (I doubt by any of the intelligent people here), but I do not fear it.
I know that in my heart, I do not hate the president because he is black.
I hate him because he has a black heart.

Oh and a bit of news for you: Were you aware that the Russians just decided that they were going to make the International space Station crash into the ocean in just a few short years? It is absolutely true. They waited until we had no way into space without them, and then, just to show that they are now in control, made the announcement that the ISS is just a waste of money, and that they were going to destroy it. They did not consult with the USA, or Canada, France, UK, Japan, or any of the other countries who contributed to this achievement which is the realization of thousands of people’s dreams and desires. If that doesn’t make you sick, then you could probably survive on dog turd sandwiches.


So with that long winded and gloomy bit of rant out of the way, how about a little levity before you add your rant to mine.

Sadly, I am not going to meet the age requirement to run for president this election. But 2016 is gonna be MINE!!!!! (You gotta be 35)

I have a 10 point plan, to not only save America, but the whole damn world.
Chekkitout
1. Ummm... pay our bills?
2. Quit spending 80 bucks per foot of PVC pipe, and 400 dollars for cheap toilet seats in the DMV?
3. ANNEX CANADA! (Why? Umm.... cuz we can?)
4. Implement the Nightsong Tax Plan (taxes stay the same, but on your tax forms, YOU get to pick where your money goes. will probably lead to the shutdown of 98% of government offices, and a 10,000% increase to infrastructure, and a 1 million percent increase to NASA's budget.)
5. Because of point 4, NASA now IS the government.

NASA now controls the USA, so we never get beyond point 5. Instead, NASA implements its own 10 point plan for world awesomeness (at least they let me make the first point!):

1. Political parties are banned. (No more D's and R's, YAY!!!!)
2. Construction begins on; Moon base, Orbital Elevator, Mars Colony, Space Drydock Facility, Next Generation Shuttle (with obligatory pew pew guns), International Space Station expansion and renovation into the first Zero-G hotel for Hard-Light Members only (can you even do the horizontal mambo in zero-g? if up and down have no meaning, how can the horizontal be quantified?  Hmmm.....)
3. Research into Effects of Zero-G on Human Coital Interaction (aka Bow-Chikka-Wow-Wow in space)
4. Pluto is hereby REINSTATED as the Sol System's 9th Planet. (And anyone who says different will be launched into the sun)
5. Begin Construction on FTL Research Facility at Earth's LaGrange Point. (This one might in all seriousness yield results)
6. Begin Construction of 4 Massive Colony Ships. (Just in case we go asteroid boom boom bye bye)
7. Retrofit the Hubble Space Telescope into a High Definition Projector with a maximum resolution of 25,000² x 18,500² AU. Make sure it has HDMI inputs.
8. Begin mounting booster engines onto the surface of the moon. Use booster to move the moon to low earth orbit, keeping the tidal forces in check by hollowing out the entire moon in order to reduce mass.
9. Conscript Volition, and the top 10 experts in every field of game design for classified project. Launch shuttle to run HDMI cable from bottom of orbital elevator, to the Hubble Space Projector. Alienware and Saitek conscripted to build custom Interface Design at base of Orbital Elevator.
10. Massive Blackout as entire Earth’s electrical grid is shut off. Bewildered masses head outside. With a blinding flash of light, humankind looks up to the moon, which takes up 75% of the night sky. Hubble fires up. Orbital Elevator relays signal via HDMI. The moon becomes the largest screen in the galaxy. Freespace 3 begins playing on surface of moon.
World peace ensues.
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Could be worse, but instead of 10 point plans and such. Keep it simple?

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well I just like how when I skimmed through a 3 page diatribe about NASA the word "Muslims" caught my eye.

and unfortunately point 5 isn't going to happen CERN SERN beat NASA to the global domination punch 30 years ago/from now (depending on how you look at it, time travel's funny like that)
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Re: Shall we discuss the bleak future of NASA (and my 10 pt. plan for President!)
well when some terrorist tries to fly a heavy lift booster into the sears tower, il be concerned.

and now my 10 point plan to advance space exploration:

1. nuke the planet to the point where its so inhospitible that humans have to eat eachother to survive.
2. tell the survivors that god has terraformed the moon and has commanded them to exodus to their new home (they will believe anything at this point)
3. raid cold war installations and nuclear silos for hardware
4: duct tape a bunch of icbms together
5: retrofit an old car into a space capsule.
6: send large numbers of stupid people to the moon.
7: before they land tell them that you lied about that whole god thing and the chances of their survival are almost nil.
8: then tell em they had better find some caves and learn to suck the water out of regolith.
9: once an effective colony has been established, send in smart people and establish a dictatorship
10: profit!

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i should point out that the 11th step is nuke the moon, and then exact a similar plan, except make the focus mars. this can be repeated ad continuum until we run out of habitable bodies in our solar system and should eventually lead us to colonize other solar systems. which we will then nuke.
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Re: Shall we discuss the bleak future of NASA (and my 10 pt. plan for President!)
the whole point was that we are going down the crapper because both sides just whip their followers into a frenzy, then sicc them on each other.
and the bit about nasa was just goofing (cept for the complete screw up of it.) really, nasa has been nuetured for a long time, obama just took it in for euthanization. im juts commenting on the sadness of it.
and its sad that the "muslim" bit caught your eye. i didnt say anything bad about muslims. thats just what he sent nasa to do. and the problem with finding truth in all the crap (which was the first bit up there) is a serious problem. thats how they get you to hate the other side.
i like fox news, which most people hate, but im NOT a fan of hannity, etc. if you want to watch fox, and get JUST news, then only watch at 3 and 7. shep is the man. (bears on trampolines, nuff said) i actually used to watch hannity when it was hannity AND colmes. but i dont like ANYTHING that just spews opinions of things. i flip the channel every time one of those jackasses from either side get on a rant and talk over each other and the host. i used to watch nbc, but then msnbc tunred into the DNC cheerleader network, and you couldnt trust anything they put up. what made me lose total faith in them was when they did a story on the tea party, back when it first started, and showed a bunch of people with ak-47's strapped to their backs. the reporter said "there were only white people there, scaring away minorities with their guns, and yelling at people of color." and i thought to myself, "that doesnt pass the sniff test. especiallly since the camera angle was cropped so that the peoples faces were never shown. i mean, if you are going to do a story about how ugly racism is, you would want to show the faces of the people, so that the viewers could see the hate in thier eyes. well i dont have time to waste trying to sift through all the crap for that one peanut of truth. i was flipping channels a few days later, and beck was on. i normally only watch a few episodes of that show, like the ones about forgotten history (like how women, and black people could vote in early colonial america, and it was only later that those rights were taken away) i especially like the two he did about the black founders of america. (you would think we could get that into a text book, or at least a shoutout on black history month) but what really caught my eye was that i saw footage of the same white power ak-47 rally. i wanted to see what he said about it. (its good to hear both sides, because the truth usually lies in the middle) so i unmute the thing, and lo and behold. a guy witha  cell phone camera happened to be there, recording the media. the guy they focused on, the one in the white shirt and slacks with the ak47 on his back? the guy who hates minorities and is yelling racist things at passer-bys? turns out he IS BLACK, and so are many of the people there. (no wonder they didnt show faces or hands). at that point, i trust only shep smith, no one else, not on fox, or any other network. its pretty damn sad.
on a funny note about media lies though? anyone else see the vid of the reporter in the boat, reporting on the flooding in a neighbourhood? she had her oars in one hand, and you could see that the water was up to the top of a stop sign right next to her. and BAM. right in the middle of her report, two local people are just walking down the road talking, and walk right behind her. turns out the stop sign was a prop (just the top half of a sign) and the water was barely ankle deep. man i wish i could find the link to that video again, it was a classic.
anyway, i know i make long posts, but i cant help it when i type a mile a minute. at least i usually go back and edit them before posting. otherwise they would be two or three times as long. (and probably read like the thoughts of someone with a case of TERMINAL A.D.D.)
the bit about nasa just really ticked me off though. its been ticking me off when bush cut the funds, and its infuriating to me that obama just took it out back and shot it.
seriously, i know the whole argument about privatizing the space industry, but thats decades off. i was right there cheering when the white knight claimed the ansari X prize, by launching a man into space 2 times in 2 weeks, but whoop-dee-doo. give me enough model rocket boosters and i could launch a collection of gi-joe's into space. the only real accomplishment was the idiot proof re-entry mechanism, which i dont beleive could be used in any other vessel, as it was based ENTIRELY on the shape of the ship. nasa wasn't out to make a dollar. so when they went into space, they took science equipment, experiments. we enjoy the life we do, and post on THIS forum, because of their work, even if they never intended for the technology to be used in this way. private companies are worried about one thing and one thing only.
THIER BOTTOM LINE. instead of experiments, space on their vessels will be taken up by billionaires and tons of nick nacks and collectibles so that when they get home they can ebay off these stupid cuzies as having "been in space". we will never get any where that way. at least not fast.
i used to dream of going into space, as im sure a lot of you have done, right? well ask yourself, and i mean REALLY , ask yourself. how has your dream of going into space changed, if you can even imagine it at all any more.
the only way i see myself getting up there, barring going the route of the astronaut farmer (awesome movie) is to win the 50 million lottery, and then quickly cash the winnings before the government takes away half (which they do. some states its actually 65%) and buy my ticket on one of the tourist flights. at least i might end up next to angelina jolie. and the only thing to look forward to there, is to be able to shove a damn sandwich down that skeleton woman before she achieves weightlessness ON EARTH.
anywho, rant over.
im tired, and still gotta do a few more exercises in fredding (trying to learn) so that i might be able to contribute more than VA here.
later peoples (ill check those links too, but ive just about had it with politics. i watched 5 mins of the republican debate. its like all of them in the race now (except for herman cain, i love that dude) have the same cloned brain just different bodies. (of course ron paul does not count, since he is a beta reticulan.)

EDIT: Luis Dias, i agree totally with some points of that article. i too blame bush, clinton before him, and the elder bush before him for not properly managing nasa. but again, thought some parts of those blog posts were factual, most was again, opinion. and of course, big surprise, made republicans look bad. im not for one side or another, but when you make one side look bad, and another side look good, you are in essence claiming allegience to the latter, and war on the former, which is going to end badly for US ALL. let me remind, that in that article it criticizes a politician for being negative about private space industries delays, and then switches gears and agrees with obama cancelling the constellation program BECAUSE IT WAS BEHIND SCHEDULE. it doesnt matter what letter is after your name, hypocrisy IS politics.  and the main problem i have with obama is the slap in the face to nasa. the whole mid-east outreach bullcrap. look, i feel badly for most of the middle east. their rulers are psycopathic murderers, and their kids are brainwashed in school to glorify suicide and promote racism, especially against jews. and when they cry out for change, they are shot in the street. but to win hearts and minds there you send NASA? SERIOUSLY? i watched the head of nasa talk about his new goal on the news, and the poor man looked like he wanted to blow his brains out, but still had the dignity to fake a smile and say he looked forward to it. both sides have stood on the backs of nasa's workers, and used their acheivements to make themselves look better, while tossing nasa scraps from the table, and then yelling at them for not being able to get a man into space with rubber bands and paper clips. (i suupose if the rubber band had enough tensile strength, and elasticity, and the paperclips could be made into a pressurized cabin.... no. thats a job for macguyver) i keep going back to reagan. it seemed like he was the last president to properly appreciate space travel and the hard work of nasa. (i DO LIKE the private side of things, but we need BOTH) so i think we should start experimenting on finding the real formula for voodoo's most closely guarded recipe. ZOMBIE POWDER! because given any of the presidents we have had in my lifetime, a zombie reagan still looks like a better choice. and when he is hungry we could feed congress to him. though if a zombie needs brains to survive, zombie reagan would die of starvation eating congress.
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Re: Shall we discuss the bleak future of NASA (and my 10 pt. plan for President!)
Volyren: You may want to reign that rambling side of yours in a bit, or learn how to use capitalization and paragraphs. Whatever points you may have or think you have, they get obscured quite efficiently by your tendency to make every post as TL;DR as possible.
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Government has had its knives out for NASA since the days of Carl Sagan, it is, unfortunately, not surprising that the moment 'austerity' was mentioned, science and education are the first one the agenda, they usually are.

I can only think that Governments have some kind of strangely self-destructive impulses.

 

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thats what i like about orion drive, we can go places and nuke everything we left behind, at the same time! its so awesome!
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Re: Shall we discuss the bleak future of NASA (and my 10 pt. plan for President!)
yeah, i apologize about the rambling, if you look at some of my earlier posts here, i think i have made at least a 50% improvement. its hard when you are used to typing super fast. a long time ago i used to have problems with writers block because my fingers couldnt keep up with my brain. so over the years ive sped up my fingers to keep up with my thoughts, and eureka! writers block no more! however, i kept getting faster and faster. the problem with that is, now, i type so fast, my computer cannot keep up with my fingers, and it actually ends up missing about 1 in 30 keystrokes. as a coping mechanism (and being spoiled by MS Word's customizable auto correct feature) ive let slip punctuation, capitalization, and most aggregious of all, at least in my opinion, is my tendency to make one sentence into a whole paragraph, and while said sentence may still be correct in grammer and syntax, the multitude of comma's (as sadly this sentence seems to be evidence of) would, if made into periods instead, make for easier digestion of my rambling reading material. (<--- see! my period key DOES work! though its definately out of shape)
your criticism of my neverending posts is quite fair, and very true. my biggest problem though, is that i USED to always write my posts in word, and just copy/paste, but i dont have word on this computer specifically to remove my bad habit of working on my novels on an internet enabled computer. the publisher im signed on with has contract policy that any authors working with them only use locked computers (no internet). there were a few cases of parts of future publications either leaking out, or being stolen. and i must admit, when i had word on here, i DID use it a LOT. and thats taking chances with my livelihood. i get slammed with renegging on any part of my contract and im out my entire 20k bonus for getting it to print AND i lose half of my contiuing royalties from book sales. it takes a year or two to get one done, and on average i dont make much more than someone working a regular 10 dollar an hour job. (my only benefit is getting to do what i love)
so again, i know some of my posts can be hard to read, headache inducing, eye throbbing, and all around atrocious to read, but im REALLY trying. ive noticed my postings tend to get much more verbose, and many times more sloppy when i am tired. and right now, ive been up for a little over 40 hours. So, (ooh, look! a capital letter at the beginning of a sentence! How does he do it?) on that note:
my apologies for the sloppy posts.
My thanks for muddling through them anyway.
And feel free to rag me about it any time i slip back into the old bad habits, ok? (honestly, you cant write and NOT be able to take criticism.) And besides, its much easier to have an objective observer point out your flaws, since human nature is, BY NATURE, subjective. In other words, if you dont take a bath, you get used to your smell. But other people most assuredly will not. So dont feel like you are going to hurt my feelings. You're actually helping me to improve, and I appreciate it.
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I truly like it here. I mean it. Best group of people I've had the pleasure to unintentionally annoy. ;)
If ever there be something I can help with, be it webspace, busywork, or even monetary support, I will be more than happy to lend a hand.
And on that note, Its Waaaaaaay past my bedtime, and that sexy looking pillow is just screaming my name. "I'll be right there baby, just dont tell the old lady. She just would't understand what we have together...whats that? Oh, don't mind them, they promised to turn their heads. Now, come here you evil temptress, I'm gonna ... gonn....a.....SSSSSSNNNNNNNOOOOOOORRRRREEEEE

(ah, sleep deprivation induced delierium, its the 2nd best type of delerium there is!)
Imm'a gonna stop here before i fall asleep on the keyboard and accidentally post 12 pages of ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg. It's happened before.
Later guys and(or) gals.
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Offline 666maslo666

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Re: Shall we discuss the bleak future of NASA (and my 10 pt. plan for President!)
Bleak future of NASA? What about its bleak past? We have achieved little in the past 30 years thanks to NASA operating the most expensive launch vehicle ever (the Shuttle) that spectacularly failed to meet its goal of making launches affordable and practical. I am of the opinion that whatever US manned space exploration will be in the future, it will be considerably better than what we had until now, because we have already hit the bottom.

And if you want to blame someone, blame the congress where representatives care only about as much money as possible flowing into their states, not the future of spaceflight. They also have the most influence.

Is this a troll thread?  :nervous:
"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." - Leonardo da Vinci

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Offline Polpolion

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Re: Shall we discuss the bleak future of NASA (and my 10 pt. plan for President!)
We have achieved little in the past 30 years
lol

 
Re: Shall we discuss the bleak future of NASA (and my 10 pt. plan for President!)

Seriously, nasa might not have achieved much since the early days of the shuttle program, but my whole point is that every kid, at least in my day (which wasn’t THAT long ago) would have loved to go to NASA’s space camp (even if just to kick jinx in the nuts). The whole point, which everyone seems to miss, is that if we make space flight COMPLETELY private and corporation owned, then unless you are a millionaire, then just forget about ever getting into space. And if the discoveries that NASA made were instead done by companies, we wouldn’t even have this board to talk on, or Freespace to mod and play. The company that made a discovery would lock it up tight, patent it, own it. Sharing information doesn’t make money. Selling it does. But then if you pay for something, you aren’t going to GIVE it away either.
Personally, the way things are now, the only way any of us will get into space is as ejecta blasted off the surface by a massive asteroid impact.

I have long since lost any hope of ever living long enough to see a human on mars, or even maybe look down on the earth from orbit. Sadly, I don’t believe any of my great-great grandchildren will either.

Humanity has preogressed this far due to our sense of innovation, and our desire to explore. But now I think the driving force of humanity is just “grab what you can, hang on to it as long as you can, and don’t be afraid to screw anyone in your way to get what you want” even the people we consider “good” have a pretty crappy mindset. Look at any of the numerous videos of people standing around while someone bleeds to death. No one helps, no one calls the cops, they just stand there and stare for a bit, or quicken their pace, telling themselves “not my problem, I shouldn’t get involved.” Whether you tell yourself that someone else will help, or if you are worried about looking like you were involved, or even being sued by the family of the victim for some technicality in state law (we have all seen that happen to people on tv). Frankly, it doesn’t make a damn bit of difference. If you see someone in need of urgent help and the first thing in your mind is whether you might get in trouble somehow, then you aren’t going to help anyway.
Helping others is instinctual, and with all our animalistic instincts, and impulses fading away thanks to our increasingly comfortable and sedentary lifestyles, its pretty sad that the very thing that makes us human, OUR HUMANITY, is one of the first to go.
Before I get too far off track, my point was, that we no longer care about exploring, pushing limits. We just want to sit on our asses and watch someone else do it.
Last I checked, no one ever made it far sitting on their ass. And space is 50 miles straight up.
My advice? Get a comfy couch.
Because none of us are going anywhere.
EVER.
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Offline Unknown Target

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Re: Shall we discuss the bleak future of NASA (and my 10 pt. plan for President!)
Well you have good points about space travel being privatized. The typical counter to that is that eventually, it'll be cheap enough to where you don't have to be a millionare/billionare. But the big thing is yea, a lot of the discoveries, a lot of the knowledge and ideas will be locked up by patents, and I think that is indeed a serious problem, both now and one only set to grow in the future.

It's funny too, because open source projects often produce better results than ones that are closed.

 

Offline Polpolion

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Re: Shall we discuss the bleak future of NASA (and my 10 pt. plan for President!)
Seriously, nasa might not have achieved much since the early days of the shuttle program

- Cassini–Huygens
- MESSENGER
- Sojourner
- Hubble
- ISS
- Spirit and Opportunity

Really, people need to stop assuming unmanned -> unimportant. Tons of awesome science is being done thanks to every unmanned probe sent off by NASA. (yes, I realize the ISS is manned but it was too big to leave out of that list)
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