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Re: The Battle of Tripoli
oh, and in responce to the earlier comments about Syria, http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/08/21/arab-world-assad-you-are-next-after-gaddafi/
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Well that was fast.

 
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The story here is getting stranger, as now I keep seeing two completely different stories - One that the rebels gave up in Misrata as was predicted a few weeks ago and that the rebels aren't actually in Tripoli aside from sporadic fire, and this.

Still, whatever happens, I don't understand anyone can be happy with the events that are going on there. Gadaffi is not the best guy but he was a stable ruler and didnt pocket all it's money for himself like many African nations with puppet governments, and certainly is not as bad as what's going to happen next to the country. Rape, pillage, burn, it's the same thing all over again, and another country in ruins. History repeats itself again and again.
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cool story :yes:
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just because their is a no fly zone, and it would be flying.

International legal minefield not to mention the situation it sets up, what would be the different between the colonels plane being shot down by UN/Nato and the colonel or Iran or N Korea shooting down Airforce 1? and if you go on about the US being able to squash a country then you are badly missing the point because the president would still be dead.

Are you kidding me?  Three words that have already been repeated several times in this thread: NO FLY ZONE.  If it flies, it gets taken out of the air, peaceably or otherwise.

No Fly zones apply to armed military craft, shooting down a civilian plane is just a illegal as sinking a civilian ship
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The story here is getting stranger, as now I keep seeing two completely different stories - One that the rebels gave up in Misrata as was predicted a few weeks ago and that the rebels aren't actually in Tripoli aside from sporadic fire, and this.

The story you see is one dreamt up by the regime, which was the part that claimed that the rebels had lost Misrata. I'm amazed that you believe them, though. As far as not being in Tripoli goes, are you even reading the news? O_o

 
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Given the sudden turn around it looks as if NATO has finally landed it's troops as they have been preparing to do for months because the rebels may have been losing. It wouldn't be surprising, but really, no one knows what's going on right now, the war against Libya is in full swing and truth is the first victim (90% of war is an information war). Reminiscent of Stalingrad 'Don't resist, Russians, you have already lost, we will treat you better than your leaders'.

Will have to wait until the smoke clears to see what's -actually- happening there. Nonetheless it's nothing good.
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or, maybe BBC or CNN know, or perhaps the thousands of Libyans tweeting about what's happening know, but I'm sure you are right, the reptilian armies are responsible for this, and they are eating babies too. I love how you alone in the world have access to the 'truth' and are not being manipulated by 'the man' and this somehow has you supporting a guy who had been bombing and turning AAA guns and ordering the mass rape of his own people as if he were some sort of Willie Wonka ruler of the country who has spent the last 40 years making the river's flow chocolate. I mean there is unanimous reporting of the rebels marching into town unopposed with the residence celebrating the end of Qaddafi's long and bloody reign of terror, by every news outlet in existence including the crowd-source outlet of the individuals living there, and yet you are able to see through all of this and know it's all just lies by the man, you know the truth some guy on ATS is telling it like it is and the rest of the information that doesn't go along with it is just disinformation. you know the truth is there is no Libya, there never has same thing for the entire continent of Africa and Eurasia, all the people on this board who say they are from the UK, they are all in on it, it's all just a trick to distract you from the slender man conspiracy taking over the real white house on the moon.

you sir, need to simmer down, take a deep breath, and ask yourself, if this were the case what would happen, what would not happen, and you need to see what things fall closer to what does happen, if your predictions turn out to be faulty, then you need to abandon the basis of those predictions. in short, try to be less cray, and try to live in reality.

anyway 8/10, good job on keeping it up to such an extreme while maintaining a believable composure.
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I dunno about Libyans receiving psychedelic laced coffee like "The Colonel" proclaimed, but I think JCDN sure does.
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just because their is a no fly zone, and it would be flying.

International legal minefield not to mention the situation it sets up, what would be the different between the colonels plane being shot down by UN/Nato and the colonel or Iran or N Korea shooting down Airforce 1? and if you go on about the US being able to squash a country then you are badly missing the point because the president would still be dead.

Are you kidding me?  Three words that have already been repeated several times in this thread: NO FLY ZONE.  If it flies, it gets taken out of the air, peaceably or otherwise.

No Fly zones apply to armed military craft, shooting down a civilian plane is just a illegal as sinking a civilian ship

If the 'civilian' plane does not return hails or comply with directions to land, it's classified as a valid target.  As it should be.

 

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Come on guys, JDCN is just voicing the unexistent Tripoli Bob. "Thaar ain no tanks in Tripoli! Itz all a lieee!"

It's all for our entertainment really. Good job JCDN!

 

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Pretty much all the international news agencies are locked in the same hotel and reporting that heavy fighting is ongoing near them. (A couple of reports mention stray rounds hitting the hotel.)
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I never meant to suggest that, I meant that there wasn't much known at the time of my post. Right now it's a clear fact that Tripoli has been conquered and the 'rebels' and NATO won. I'm more concerned with civilian casualties, the state of their economy, and how a nation that actually became really wealthy has been crushed with no idea if it's ever going to recover.
In part it looks like a repeat of Iraq, it's possible it'll be occupied by NATO and US forces for a decade or longer to come to 'keep the peace'. And Iraq isn't particularly free or rebuilt 7-8 years after the invasion, but rather very dependent and still very de-stabilized. That doesn't mean I like or support Saddam or Gadaffi, but compared to what's happened and happening now these dictators were actually a better alternative, which is a strange thing to have to say.

A little detail from Reuters that might be interesting:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/29/us-libya-usa-intelligence-idUSTRE72S43P20110329

Or the Wall Street Journal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703712504576237042432212406.html

And even the CFR's own statements:

http://www.cfr.org/libya/libya-now-needs-boots-ground/p25683?cid=soc-Twitter-in-Libya-boots_on_ground-082211

Nonetheless, I don't really like to even have to discuss these subjects, i'd rather focus on more positive stuff, but you guys will be greatly affected by everything that's going on in the subjects i've brought up. The world's more complex and it's events better documented than CNN or BBC is able to report on, and there's many mainstream sources that bring up the more complex and different side of the situation. I don't understand why subjects should be ignored or simply believed without looking at the other side of things.

As such I'll let the subject be for now as the Battle of Tripoli is over and I've said my piece on it all, we'll see what happens in the end.

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Get out.

You can't even read tenses in the actual links you're providing.
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JCDN; 10/10 you really had me going there.
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Why is it that whenever I hear Saif Al-Islam giving a press conference I keep hearing the phrase 'There are no Allied Tanks in Baghdad....' in my head? ;)

 

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Rebels have taken Gadhafi's compound. He was not apparently in residence. Reporters from CNN and a couple of Arab networks have been escorted around the compound by rebel forces.

Waiting on the bizarre, otherworldly pronouncements of the former government of Libya regarding this.
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Waiting on the bizarre, otherworldly pronouncements of the former government of Libya regarding this.
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I miss that guy. :(