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Offline Darius

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Re: NBC Universal: ULTRA DIQUES
Let it be known, that using an IP you do not own will eventually lead to your closure after significant growth.

Sounds like they're outright saying if your project is based on others' IP, it's gonna get shut down.

 

Offline karajorma

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I've called that particular admin on his unprofessional attitude already.
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Offline Darius

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Good to hear  :yes:

 

Offline Mongoose

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Re: NBC Universal: ULTRA DIQUES
That statement's full of ****, too, considering how many huge IPs turn a blind eye to, or even outright encourage, freely-released fan content.  Hell, both Star Wars and Star Trek have each generated full-fledged fan films/series, not to mention dozens of game mods.

 

Offline JGZinv

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Frankly Kara... I expect the thread @ModDB to be locked soon with the excuse that they've said all they are going to say,
the rules are their rules, don't let the door smack you on the way out. By the guy's tone, they aren't going to budge.
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I know, that's why I thought 'd go for the throat and point out that his attitude was suggesting that no mod based on those universes should use Desura.

Once it starts affecting THEM personally, they might start to care.
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Re: NBC Universal: ULTRA DIQUES
So you haven't been contacted by NBC so far, right?
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Offline karajorma

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Nope.
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Offline Something

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Re: NBC Universal: ULTRA DIQUES
Any chance you guy might avoid the purge? I mean, some of you helped make a game of theirs IIRC.
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Offline karajorma

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Whose? The ModDB's? NBC Universal's? Neither option is likely to either be offered or accepted anyway.
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Offline joncfc

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Re: NBC Universal: ULTRA DIQUES
Well this is all going tits up isn't it?!  :confused:

What is the contingency for when and if you get the c&d? 

Move to a Russian server and carry on as if nothings happened (is this feasible)?
Release the half finished mod on torrent?
Swap all the models out and call it something else?
Call it a day and go outside and play instead?

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Offline newman

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Re: NBC Universal: ULTRA DIQUES
Hasn't come to that yet, and probably won't. So far it would seem to be limited to moddb, and if it remains that way the actual damage will be minimal.
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Offline Sushi

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Re: NBC Universal: ULTRA DIQUES
Right. With any luck, this is more about moddb trying to make money (and therefore getting a lot more scrutiny about what they're allowed to host) than about the mods themselves. Until someone knocks on our door, we're moving right ahead. It's certainly given us motivation to hurry up, though, before anything does get complicated. :)

 

Offline karajorma

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Re: NBC Universal: ULTRA DIQUES
Interesting, it appears that the ModDB DID reply, they just sent it to the obscure, rarely used webmail address I used to sign up rather than their own internal email for some bizarre reason

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Hi Karajorma,

Sorry about the lack of a response, basically a law firm representing NBCU
contacted us regarding this mod:
http://www.moddb.com/mods/nexus-battlestar-galactica

We comply with all IP/takedown requests so as a result we removed the mod
profile and were advised to do so with all other BSG content. At this stage
there isn't anything more to it, and we are unable to do anything unless
NBCU allows fan-made content, or BSG content is removed from your game.

Regards,

Scott Reismanis
Founder, End Boss
DesuraNET Pty Ltd

(310) 933-5640
[email protected]
http://www.moddb.com
http://www.indiedb.com
http://www.desura.com
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Offline Alan Bolte

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Re: NBC Universal: ULTRA DIQUES
An odd thought - I wonder if this was precipitated by the video on Kotaku that used the very recognizable "Watchtower" music rather than something original.
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Offline newman

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It's possible, but doesn't matter much either way now.
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Re: NBC Universal: ULTRA DIQUES
Whenever a company does this, it shoots itself in the foot. Fan-made content is the best kind of compliment and support you can get, especially when you know it's 100% free. It brings in many more customers and thus much more revenue. Oh well.. Hope Diaspora won't have to shut down.
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Offline newman

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The problem arises from the fact that the people in legal departments that deal with this sort of thing know jack about modding communities, and what they do. So if you have a misfortune of running into someone short sighted and ignorant enough who's out to impress the boss by stomping on "copyright infringement", then this sort of thing happens.
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Offline karajorma

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I've said elsewhere that I think the best response to this would be to work out exactly how much it would cost to get adverts in places like The Escapist and Kotaku and then send a whole cost projection estimate to the PR/Advertising department at Universal with a cover note asking them why the legal department thought this was a good idea. :p

Fans arguing with legal will probably get ignored. Advertising Dept arguing with Legal Dept is a completely different matter.

Unfortunately we'd need someone who works in advertising to work this sort of thing out professionally, I doubt they'd pay any attention to the sort of thing an amateur could put together.
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Offline arrtee

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Kara, I am already working on that.. I have a friend who worked ads/PR with me for Alienware, and Dell (ienware). She has tons of knowledge in this field, especially in regards to IP's and the like. I will PM you with ANY information she can provide that may help. She is also a huge BTRL/Diaspora fan and is quite pissed about this..

That is, if you think it's necessary. Please let us know!