[Bobboau]

Usually I steer clear of threads related to religion

and this is why the attitude persists, if someone is wrong, you can ignore them and let them contiue on or confront them and maybe change their mind, or the atmosphere to one hostile to them.

you are doomed to failure of course because religion does invariably lead one to making poor judgements, and often violence.

[Black Wolf]

I do, however, have one question that I would really like to have answered, please:
Why do the mods tolerate this? Is this not against the board rules?

No, it's not. In fact:

However we ask that members respect the right of free speech. That is to say that as long as a comment isn't of a racist or sexist nature - a member has a right to say it.

You can read the original here.

[Firstdragon34]

Maybe instead of abolishing religion. we change our belief that everything in this universe, living, can be sensed. Due to this nature, we can't cause harm to each other or other things.

Very much like the Life Stream in my story, Codename: Exile Fleet.

[Bobboau]

nice, very subtle, plug there.

why limit it to living, there are tones of non-living things I can sense, through multiple channels, you could say I can sense everything if you include indirect sensation via instrumentation that convert things I am not equipped to process into a form I am equipped to.

[Dark Hunter]

I do, however, have one question that I would really like to have answered, please:
Why do the mods tolerate this? Is this not against the board rules?

No, it's not. In fact:

However we ask that members respect the right of free speech. That is to say that as long as a comment isn't of a racist or sexist nature - a member has a right to say it.

You can read the original here.

I see.

Thank you for clearing that up.

you are doomed to failure of course because religion does invariably lead one to making poor judgements, and often violence.

The same could be said of any ideology.

Every. Single. Belief. System. On. Earth. has had some violent whackjobs who did bad things in its name. You can't let their actions influence your perception of the entire group.

Blame the individual. Not the belief system.

[Bobboau]

yeah, I can, and do. the belief system cannot survive without perpetuating ways of thinking that lead to disaster, it is the belief system's fault. It is simply good fortune that most people are resistant enough and able to compartmentalize the damage it does to their thought process.

[Polpolion]

hate to say it but I'm with Nuke on this one

[Mefustae]

Every. Single. Belief. System. On. Earth. has had some violent whackjobs who did bad things in its name.

I have never, ever heard of someone attacking another over why crunchy peanut butter is transcendentally better than smooth. But I guess that's not really a belief system, more like a given fact.

[karajorma]

I have never, ever heard of someone attacking another over why crunchy peanut butter is transcendentally better than smooth. But I guess that's not really a belief system, more like a given fact.

Permabanned!

[Bobboau]

yeah, smooth is obviously superior, such blatant trolling should not be tolerated.

[Nuke]

if i want crunchy il just eat peanuts.

[Nuke]

Yet another example why practicing religion should be abolished globally. It does more harm than good regardless of what religion it is. At least killing people for oil or stealing a purse makes sense. This does not.

Dear lord, the amount of bigotry towards the religious in HLP disgusts me sometimes. Usually I steer clear of threads related to religion for exactly this reason, but... reading comments like this turns my stomach.

I'm going to stop this post here before I say something I regret. I am extremely angry at the moment.

I do, however, have one question that I would really like to have answered, please:
Why do the mods tolerate this? Is this not against the board rules?

i allow it because:
1. im biased
2. its free speech and protected by the forum rules
3. satan told me to

if atheism was a religion (and i often find that many atheists act like just another religious group, with the same prejudices of outsiders, and tendency to protect their own, and the burning need to convert others into their fold), then what fury said would likely be one of its tenants. all religious groups (not to mention atheists) seem to have an inherent bigotry about them. they feel that are always right and everyone who isnt in agreement with them is not and is somehow less human. wherever you have an outgroup you will have discrimination and bigotry and thats just human nature. so long as humans wall themselves off into little groups, there will be violence between them. if people dont temper their beliefs with reason and understanding, you will have hatred and brutality.

if you can't figure that out then maybe you all need to get nuked.

[Sushi]

wherever you have an outgroup you will have discrimination and bigotry and that's just human nature. so long as humans wall themselves off into little groups, there will be violence between them. if people don't temper their beliefs with reason and understanding, you will have hatred and brutality.

You know, a lot of religions actually teach people specifically NOT to be hateful/bigoted/violent (although with mixed success: they are, of course, fighting human nature).

I think it's wishful thinking at best to imagine these problems go away if you eliminate religion.

[karajorma]

The same religion spends just as much time teaching people to be hateful/bigoted and violent though so it's hard to believe the message. It best it's a wash.

[Kosh]

wherever you have an outgroup you will have discrimination and bigotry and that's just human nature. so long as humans wall themselves off into little groups, there will be violence between them. if people don't temper their beliefs with reason and understanding, you will have hatred and brutality.

You know, a lot of religions actually teach people specifically NOT to be hateful/bigoted/violent (although with mixed success: they are, of course, fighting human nature).

I think it's wishful thinking at best to imagine these problems go away if you eliminate religion.

Part of the problem is that belief systems in and of themselves are fatally flawed simply because it's a massive appeal to authority and it deliberately discourages people from thinking and questioning. I would argue because of that the systems are more prone to abuse of power.

[666maslo666]

Egypt is chock-full of brainwashed muslim extremists, I am not surprised such things happen at all.

About eight-in-ten Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan (82% each) endorse the stoning of people who commit adultery

When asked about the death penalty for those who leave the Muslim religion, at least three-quarters of Muslims in Jordan (86%), Egypt (84%) and Pakistan (76%) say they would favor making it the law

http://pewglobal.org/files/2010/12/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Muslim-Report-FINAL-December-2-2010.pdf

[Mefustae]

Permabanned!

yeah, smooth is obviously superior, such blatant trolling should not be tolerated.

if i want crunchy il just eat peanuts.

Haters gonna hate.

[Bobboau]

weren't you banned?

[karajorma]

Well I actually was eating a peanut butter sandwich when I wrote that (seriously, I'm not making that up).

I must have gotten distracted.

[Firstdragon34]

The Goddess Alhurin forgives you.