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Offline mandobardanjusik

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Re: Arwing interceptor and defender development thread
thanks, syphe, ok I have something to show you guys, a couple of improvements to the interceptor and defender, a new cockpit, and weapon details

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Nice. Details are a vast improvement.

 

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I would change the gap in the front of the interceptor... make it less boxy.

Suggest something like this...

Edit: replaced crummy text art with shooped image.

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Re: Arwing interceptor and defender development thread
I tried what you did, however it causes some major mesh issues, and I am not entirely sure that is the answer

 

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Re: Arwing interceptor and defender development thread
ok so say hello to the beginning of the wolfen prototype, note its still a WIP and it still lacks its upper g-diffuser wings, and my basic ideas with the changes and influencing my design is that it is based off a reverse engineered snes arwing, and enlarged.
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Re: Arwing interceptor and defender development thread
say hello to further work on the normal prototype, and wolf's personal prototype(yes its supposed to be blue, dont ask why)





 

Offline Axem

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Neat stuff. Needs more detail, but I'm not really sure what specific detail it could use. That's one of the challenges of upgrading models from very low poly to modern standards. There's no science to art design for this stuff, so I can only give you cliche sayings such as "Follow your heart" and so forth. :p What SoL would be looking for it a bit more high quality than what you have right now, but you've got a good start so far.

 

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Re: Arwing interceptor and defender development thread
ok so say hello to the further developed wolfen prototype , added a lot more detailing, in fact cant think of much else, maybe a few things in the texture(which I am not even sure I will be doing), but  I added lasers and aa couple of other things, like additional engine related stuff, and I added a transparent cockpit, howeve I will not be doing that stuff that goes in it, cause that requires team Wolf, minus Wolf, as I am terrible at organics, anyways there should already be models.





oh and new upper wings

 

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Re: Arwing interceptor and defender development thread
ok so here some further development behind the idea of prototype wolfen.
When pigma betrayed the original team Fox, he took a mostly intact prototype arwing with him. Andross realized the need for an advanced fighter himself, so he rengineered the arwing, reinforcing the basic frame with large armor plates ont he top, moving all the life support and comm aystems into the original part of the frame, the original output for the enine was enlarged and made longer, and additional hull was attached to the bottom with the much larger engine generator, it also had a pair of weaker redesigned G-diffuser wings, and stavilizer wings, that allow it enhanced maneuverability over all later models, however it is slower than later(or maybe the other way around). it also has moved lasers. this was later used by most of team wolf prior to androsses invasion, until the production model was finished. it was also used after The Lylat Wars, after maintence on the damaged wolfen 2's proved too expensive, and the production version was going through major upgrades, and wolf always felt fond of his personal one and held onto it.

 

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Re: Arwing interceptor and defender development thread
ok, so I have now done further work on Wolf's prototype Wolfen, so I decided to make some group pics. now, I might be able to think up one or two more model related details, but I think the rest will be in the texture, and I do have to say at the least, this is a Major improvement over the original, and I posted a pic or 2 of them as well

 

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Re: Arwing interceptor and defender development thread
ok so I have something new for you guys. the idea came to me last week, and I finally got around to throwing it together tonight, though it is still a WIP. I have a new ship, and a new retcon(that is also going to elaborate on one of my earlier ones. So I would like the present the the Advanced 64 Arwing, or XAS-02 though I have a feeling it will get nicknamed Stealth arwing, because of its dark paint job(gray fuselage, Black G-diffusers), and that it also has a more powerful engine(altered front, engine intakes), it is also might be a test bed for jamming equipment(?) and it also does not have a traditional Smart bomb launcher, and is instead has a mine deployer(that could possibly rear fire smart bombs)
So this advanced prototype belongs to Fara Pheonix who is the head test pilot for Arspace dynamics, and also kept it as her own(it is the only one in exsistence, and technicly a variant rather than a main member of the Arwing series, liek the defender and interceptor, which I have deemed XB-01, and XI-01 respectively) [note it does still need wings, and further detailing and tweaking] who has Miyu and Fay, in Arwing Interceptors as wing mates, and they occasionly go on missions, and aid team Starfox.

so if you were wondering, the inspiration for this craft came as I was reading through starfox info, and discovered that in the old comics that Fara had been the test pilot for the army(minor update changes that to Arspace dynamics) and that she had a Black FX arwing, so I decided to update and retcon the idea, by changing it to the SF64 arwing, and making it an advanced prototype of it, that would also link the SF64 and Assualt ones somewhat. again this is still a WIP, and I made it with some reference to the pics I could find of SOL's 64 arwing, but it is suppossed to feel similar, yet different, well tell me what you think, I hope to have better pics of a further developed model soon
I am also have an ugly idea I may pursue, but thats another note

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Offline SypheDMar

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Re: Arwing interceptor and defender development thread
I gotta say that I like what you did with the Wolfens. I realized that I never commented on that earlier.

 

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Why thanks Syphe, I still apperantly need to do some more tweaking on them, but I can think of much.... well except for actual textures, but if possibly I would prefer that being done by someone other than me. I cant wait to see what I can make out of this new one, and I do have a couple new ideas on the interceptor, though a bit of a blank on the defender, cept maybe the wings. any comments on my newest creation, or are you waiting till I finish the base, and do a couple of nice renders?

 
Re: Arwing interceptor and defender development thread
Looks cool, mando. You're definitely improving your skills, just keep practicing.

 

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ok I am still alive, hoping for some feedback.
"ok new updates changes and improvements, I now have wings on the advanced arwing, and morre changes and improvements, I have added an intake/radiator piece to the wolfen prototype, I hope this helps, cant think of anything else on it. And of course, I have improved the interceptor greatly added more g-diffuser details, more fuselage details, and engine detailing and I have modified and improved the wings on all of the arwings

feedback is appreciated, however please be helpful and constructive, no 'this doesnt look good' if you think it doesnt look good, tell me what you think Ishould do with it'










 

Offline starlord

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excellent work mando!

speaking of which, did you recieve my PM?

 

Offline crizza

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Will you make the big ship too?

 

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what big ship? and starlord I did, however I am sorry but I currently do not have the time for another commitment

 

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I believe there was some kind of mothership, which acted as carrier for the arwings.

 

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hmm the mothership, I did have an idea on how to upgrade and reimagine that, as the Ar-space Dynamics advanced carrier, it was the predecessor to both the conerian carrier, and the dreadnaught. it never intered full service, however when Fara Pheonix found the old prototype, it was decided to upgrade it to an advanced high-speed carrier, however its weapondry would be extremely light, due to its hull shape, and engine design. it was designated the M0T-H3R SH1P, and was of course nicknamed the 'Mother Ship'. it has a handful of defensive laser cannons, and does have a smartbomb missile launcher, while the weapondry is light, it is even faster than the great fox, and has heavy shields, but a light hull(flexible on these). and we will see what I can make of it tonight
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I will also see about making an arspace dynamics logo (originaly it was called arspace, now its technicly space dynamics, but I prefer ar-space)
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