[JCDNWarrior]

This is certainly a interesting idea, would require a great deal of editing as well as FREDing and creating areas within a large ship such as a Destroyer. It does seem possible but you certainly shouldn't go for it on your own. I'm curious to see how this will turn out nonetheless.

[deathfun]

Any advice or thoughts for how to do Shivans properly?

Don't explain their mystery. Build on it

[Mort]

You could try to present them as an unbeatable force like Volition did with the Sathanas armada. Create the effect that the GTVA survives only because the Shivans were interested in something else or something along that line

[redsniper]

Start with some shorts before you go for a full hour-long production. Baby steps, folks.

[mr.WHO]

I think that a storyline focused on Bosh ans his preparation / begining of NTF rebellion would be the best scenario:
- Famous character - check
- political story - check
- rebel conspiracy - check
- some action on the planet surface - check
- some parts of Shivan storyline via ETAK device construction sub-plot - check
- Vasudan society and characters  via rising anti-Vasudan stance of NTF supporters - like a sub-plot of the planetary civil-war between NTF Terrans and GTVA Vasudans (on that planet the Vasudan transport were running away at FS2 first mission) aka "global Balkans" - check


IMO as a Freespace fan I think that Shivans "greate preservers & greate destroyers" plot is exchausted enough in FS1 and FS2 so I'd rather focus on the holes between them (like NTF rebelion or Rebuild period - like fall of GTA after Sol node collapse, formation of independent Terran blocks and then reunification under GTVA).

What can I say - I'm more a David Weber fan than Star Wars or Star Trek fan.

[Droid803]

Another option may be setting it in BP-verse (WiH-era), might help as there are extensive written documents on the philosophies and principles of both sides, and then you can avoid the Shivan Problem altogether.

Though its probably better to stick to "canon".

[MatthTheGeek]

Nothing prevents you to set it in the Reconstruction/Capella era, but use commonly accepted fanon such as STR and BP where you could need it. You already have a lot of detailed universe stuff from BP that can easily apply to pre-BP era.

[deathfun]

Nothing prevents you to set it in the Reconstruction/Capella era, but use commonly accepted fanon such as STR and BP where you could need it. You already have a lot of detailed universe stuff from BP that can easily apply to pre-BP era.

Well technically, STR is canon. At least, I would consider it as such. It just fleshed the idea out more than it was, but still stuck to the general story

[mjn.mixael]

STR is not canon.

[rubixcube]

STR is not canon.

Well, who knows, maybe after  is formally invited to play ST:R, they'll declare it to be cannon.

On the topic of this movie, maybe you could do the first freespace in three, 30-60min segments, one for each act.
You would also need to include an element of character development, as well as a name for Alpha one.

I really wish you luck with this, having a freespace movie, even one like this, would be totally awsome

[mr.WHO]

Nothing prevents you to set it in the Reconstruction/Capella era, but use commonly accepted fanon such as STR and BP where you could need it. You already have a lot of detailed universe stuff from BP that can easily apply to pre-BP era.

STR is not canon.

ST / ST:R is canon, because it's content (Loki, Hades, GTI rebellion) is canon.
Howeven It a first time I hear that BP is commonly considered canon fan made content. WTF? BP is very good, even perfect campaingn, but it's still one of many fan made mod, while ST in some way made into official FS2.

And no I don't think that BP machinima would be good. Although WiH is quite nice I don't like AoA spiritual crap.

[PeterX]

ST was an extention of Descent Freespace "The great War" and STR is the FSO remake of that ST and ST was before FS2 has been released.
Peter

[Jeff Vader]

ST / ST:R is canon, because it's content (Loki, Hades, GTI rebellion) is canon.

Uh, no? ST:R is a fan remake -> not canon. By your logic I could make some campaign with Lokis, Hadeses and something about the GTI rebellion and it would be considered canon.

[deathfun]

I may have strayed this conversation off topic a little with that remark. I stand by it, but that's not a discussion for here

Still working on that story though, taking longer than I wanted it to

[mr.WHO]

ST / ST:R is canon, because it's content (Loki, Hades, GTI rebellion) is canon.

Uh, no? ST:R is a fan remake -> not canon. By your logic I could make some campaign with Lokis, Hadeses and something about the GTI rebellion and it would be considered canon.

Sorry but are you playing stupid or what? ST was made for FS1, long before FS2 release - V decided to include the content of ST (ships AND story) in FS2  so IT IS CANON, unlike any other fan made campaign including those with ST ships.

ST:R is just an upgrade of old ST that has more or less same content and story so it's noting that could be consided way away from canon.

[Jeff Vader]

Okay, let's revise some things. And let's note that the things listed below are my very own personal opinions on the matter.

1. Volition made FS1, the first game in the FS series -> I consider it canon.

2. Volition made Silent Threat (NOT Reborn), an expansion to FS1 -> I consider the ships/other resources and the main campaign canon (but not the user-made missions).

3. Volition made FS2, the second actual game in the FS series -> I consider it canon.

4. Some people made Silent Threat: Reborn, a fan remake of the Silent Threat campaign with an altered, more coherent story -> I consider it fanfic. A really good campaign but not made by Volition, thereby not canon by my standards. No matter how much ST sucked and how much ST:R was win, it doesn't just magically turn ST:R into canon.

[mr.WHO]

My god, are we some hardcore ST/SW fans who dress like Vulcan and argue about tiny details?

I mean you're right ST is canon and ST:R isn't but still ST:R is more or less consistent with both FS2 and ST storylines. It's not like they reopened Sol node, introduce a space ponies or painded Hades in pink. They modifed some mission added some new ones, but still no matter if we consider them canon or not they don't voliate the canon FS2 story line in any way.

Anyway this still drift away from main topic as I wouldn't like to see ST/ST:R machinima anyway.
The machinime would need to focuc on something new to be interesting, if I would like to see ST, FS2 or BP machinima I would just play them.
That's why I think Rebuild period or early NTF rebelion would be more interesting.

[MatthTheGeek]

tl:dr : STR is not canon, but it's strong fanon. There's nothing else to say on that topic, everyone please move on.

[StarLiner]

Check out what just got uploaded.

http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=127842

Could be useful, no?

[MatthTheGeek]

What the hell is this monstruosity.

Looks like someone took an Apollo and beat the living **** out of it.