[yuezhi]

convoy escort? aside from whether or not this ship will be tied to the FS universe, using a destroyer for that role is wasteful since it's too large and precious to be given duties other than flagship roles.

for a cap-ship sized cap-ship hunter, don't we use the word "dreadnought?"

[crizza]

A tricky one...a dreadnought is certainly bigger then a destroyer I'll say...but when does it become a battleship?
The Nevada as a superdreadnought was 178 metres long, while the Yamato had an overall lenght of 263 metres...

[yuezhi]

Dreadnought

Noun;
  "a battleship in which most of the firepower is concentrated in large guns that are of the same caliber."
   "(informal) a type of warship heavier in armour or armament than a typical battleship"

i guess a seaman will say every battleship is a dreadnought inside and out.

[flecht]

convoy escort? aside from whether or not this ship will be tied to the FS universe, using a destroyer for that role is wasteful since it's too large and precious to be given duties other than flagship roles.

I can imagine destroyer supporting withdrawal of the supply fleet. It doesn't mean it has to be alone on the battlefield. I'm sure, there even was a mission where Typhon relieves you from your escort assignment.

for a cap-ship sized cap-ship hunter, don't we use the word "dreadnought?"

I checked it up and you're right.

A tricky one...a dreadnought is certainly bigger then a destroyer I'll say...but when does it become a battleship?
The Nevada as a superdreadnought was 178 metres long, while the Yamato had an overall lenght of 263 metres...

Japanese dreadnought Nagato
Length: 221 m
Displacement: 42 850 t
British battlecruiser HMS Renown
Length: 242 m
Diplacement: 32 730 t

Length is not the only factor.

Could someone explain the origin of this (FS) dreadnought?

[Droid803]

Origin of (FS) dreadnought is nothing at all.
People just call stuff it whenever they want to.

On a personal basis, I would think of a destroyer-sized and up dedicated ship=to-ship combatant with little to no fighter carrying capacity, in contrast to destroyers (which are hybrid warship/carriers and can lean on either side; case: Orion vs Hecate), and carriers (which have little-to-no direct ship-to-ship options).

In real-world wet navies, dreadnoughts were initially defined as line-of-battle ships with a uniform main battery. That definition kind of degraded as everything started using that. Battlecruisers are defined by being under-armored for their size and armament (something about not being able to resist their own guns), for more speed. At least in WWI, those were the going definitions. By WW2, I guess all those definitions kind of eroded (?). Though from the Nagato vs Renown thing, you can see that the Renown has significantly less displacement despite being bigger, which sounds like its underarmored to me.

[headdie]

Have fun when it comes to defining battleships

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Power_Treaty#Effects
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_for_the_Limitation_of_Naval_Armament
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-dreadnought_battleship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadnought

To make things more interesting Countries like Japan and the Yamato exceeded the legal maximums of the treaties.

[starbug]

ok i have the UV of the main hull done and have mocked up some test textures

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[crizza]

These are many dockpoints o.O

[starbug]

There ment to be missile tubes, but as i said they are temp textures, i actually used Beam4 from the sparky vp for those.

[starbug]

Ok heres what i have done with the Textures, still a lot to do, but i am pretty happy with it, as i am more used to texturing organic models.

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[NeonShivan]

Like it

[Sombre]

Freespace very obviously doesn't use the same system of categorisation in english as a 20th century navy. Don't worry about it.

Anyway in FS all destroyers have fighterbays, massive size/armour and in the FS2 era have heavy anti capital weapons. So if your ship doesn't have those it might not be a destroyer.

[flecht]

@starbug Is it possible for you to post a few shots from different angles, so we could fully appreciate your work? It looks really interesting.

Freespace very obviously doesn't use the same system of categorisation in english as a 20th century navy. Don't worry about it.

Indeed, considering the fact that cruiser is typically bigger than destroyer and in FS it's smaller than corvette.

[MatthTheGeek]

Sure, but FS cruisers are larger or on par with nowaday's cruisers...

[yuezhi]

Fenrises are nearly the size of Yamatos. yet i can't figure out why torpedo runs against it feel like sinking a pointless obstacle instead of an important battleship. the sizes in game don't feel right somehow.

that destroyer is looking better everyday. there's more done than what i could do in one week.

[Dragon]

It's less about the size and more about their wimpyness. In WCS, destroyers are about the size of FS cruisers, but are much more imposing, because they're actually a threat.

[Droid803]

Still feels like that thing needs a good AO bake and maybe some smoothing tweaking.

[General Battuta]

It's less about the size and more about their wimpyness. In WCS, destroyers are about the size of FS cruisers, but are much more imposing, because they're actually a threat.

Yeah, definitely this. Slap some better AI on the cruiser and expand its capabilities and suddenly they feel much more real.

[qwadtep]

Fenrises are nearly the size of Yamatos. yet i can't figure out why torpedo runs against it feel like sinking a pointless obstacle instead of an important battleship. the sizes in game don't feel right somehow.

Dude, it's a Fenris. It isn't an important battleship, it's a museum piece. Save your bombs for a Leviathan or Lilith or something that wasn't outdated before the Great War.

Speaking of cruisers, I feel like this model would make a better attack cruiser than a destroyer. Slap some AAAs on the sides, jump it into the middle of a fighter squadron or supply depot and enjoy the carnage.

[MatthTheGeek]

Fenrises are nearly the size of Yamatos. yet i can't figure out why torpedo runs against it feel like sinking a pointless obstacle instead of an important battleship. the sizes in game don't feel right somehow.

FS has some funky FoV by default. Given that, it's pretty normal that sizes don't feel right ingame.

In any case, just take the Aeolus, which is smaller than the Fenris, and see if it doesn't give you enough of a pause in bomber runs