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Offline TrashMan

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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
FS is FS, WC is WC.
SC will be SC. Anything else is just projecting and raising a ruckus over nothing.

FS had a different atmosphere, but FS is hardly a perfect game/setting/story. Every story has concessions to make. FS was about the atmosphere, and it had few characters to speak off. Some may like it, some may not.

Personally, I'm glad SC is doing it's own thing. Trying to emulate FS would feel restrictive and Chris has made some great games (Cionquest: Fronteer Wars, Starlancer, Freelancer, etc..).
I doubt I'll be dissapointed.
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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
So long as he emulates nothing of Freelancer, it should be an alright game.
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« Last Edit: June 29, 2013, 02:01:42 pm by Deathsnake »
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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
Quote
From the DC of the 300i promo Video.

I do love that video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTBzrUwB6Qo

 

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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
So long as he emulates nothing of Freelancer, it should be an alright game.

What was so bad about freelancer?

I liked that game :(

 

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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
Yeah, I wouldn't mind some similarities. FL was a great game, if rough along the edges.

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
I find it really doubtful they are doing that video with the in-game render engine. The clouds are just too perfect, which is a detail that a space sim wouldn't bother much to go into... specially given that the anonymous pilot doesn't even have any hair yet.

 

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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
I find it really doubtful they are doing that video with the in-game render engine. The clouds are just too perfect, which is a detail that a space sim wouldn't bother much to go into... specially given that the anonymous pilot doesn't even have any hair yet.

There is nothing in that video that is beyond the demonstrated capabilities of the CryEngine. Personally, I found the cloud interaction to be a bit basic (they didn't react to the ship passing through or near them). regarding the pilot: I'm pretty sure that's a conscious decision.
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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
Yes, I was too quick to judge there. Forgot they are taking this out of an immense library of ready-made effects in their disposal. About the baldness, of course it's a conscious decision, now one can be slightly cynical and say they haven't a good hair physics yet, or one can be less cynical and say they are going this route because it will be less demanding on the design cycle and after all, air force pilots do usually have small hair.

 

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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
100?

Well, this will be interesting to see.
Blame Blue Planet for my Freespace2 addiction.

 

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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
I just hope they're not gonna make all those misc animations a mandatory part of making a ship. This would make the ship import process ridiculously painful for modders. Adding a basic interior will be painful enough.
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Offline AtomicClucker

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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
I just hope they're not gonna make all those misc animations a mandatory part of making a ship. This would make the ship import process ridiculously painful for modders. Adding a basic interior will be painful enough.

As an amateur modeller myself, those animations would be the death of my time and work flow.

While the level of detail can be appreciated, I just wonder how much is actually necessary.
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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
I just hope they're not gonna make all those misc animations a mandatory part of making a ship. This would make the ship import process ridiculously painful for modders. Adding a basic interior will be painful enough.

As an amateur modeller myself, those animations would be the death of my time and work flow.

While the level of detail can be appreciated, I just wonder how much is actually necessary.

They are aiming for maximum immersion.

But that does not mean that you can't simply make mods where you have regular ships without interiors or moving parts Freespace style.
They do have singleplayer options and the ability to host your own servers after all.

What is kinda cool is that if you do manage to make a model that is on par with what they have in game you have the otption of submitting it for review to be included officially in the game.
They have some fans going for that already.

 

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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
What is kinda cool is that if you do manage to make a model that is on par with what they have in game you can submit it for review to be included officially in the game.

Kinda cool? That's seriously cool right there :D

 

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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
But that does not mean that you can't simply make mods where you have regular ships without interiors or moving parts Freespace style.
I doubt gameplay would work at all without at least a working modelled cockpit that your character can go in and out of. Too many gameplay mechanics seem to rely on that. And this is already making ship conversion a whole larger pain in the ass than necessary.

What is kinda cool is that if you do manage to make a model that is on par with what they have in game you have the otption of submitting it for review to be included officially in the game.
Honestly, couldn't care less about what goes or doesn't go in official servers.
People are stupid, therefore anything popular is at best suspicious.

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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
They are aiming for maximum immersion.

But that does not mean that you can't simply make mods where you have regular ships without interiors or moving parts Freespace style.
They do have singleplayer options and the ability to host your own servers after all.

What is kinda cool is that if you do manage to make a model that is on par with what they have in game you have the otption of submitting it for review to be included officially in the game.
They have some fans going for that already.

The level od fidelity is ridonkolously high.

I might be able to model a ship mesh to their standard... but then acomes animation and then texture work.
They have an entire team of experts working on a single ship. One guy matching that...is a VERY tall order. Maybe if several people band together, but it's hard to do that for one model.

I was so hypes when SC was announced I immediately started to work on modeling ships.... but when the sheer vastness of the task finally downed on me I kinda stopped. By that time I modeled a modular corridor and rooms and a simple cockpit.
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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
I doubt gameplay would work at all without at least a working modelled cockpit that your character can go in and out of. Too many gameplay mechanics seem to rely on that. And this is already making ship conversion a whole larger pain in the ass than necessary.
Wouldn't we be able to slap a generic modelled cockpit on every new ship? Like when we import the same pilot model for FS strikecrafts?

 

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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
What is kinda cool is that if you do manage to make a model that is on par with what they have in game you can submit it for review to be included officially in the game.

Kinda cool? That's seriously cool right there :D

I have some pity for those who will be reviewing every attempt at creating these ridiculously detailed and animated ships. "Sigh... no, you got the wheel animations wrong. And no, flaps aren't rotating properly because you got the axis wrong..."

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Re: Robert Space Industries. From the Wing commander + sequels makers
I also seriously doubt anyone can mod this game into a Freespace mod without serious limitations. I mean, I am not expecting anyone to model the insides of an Orion hangar and its bridge anytime soon....

This is the problem of too much detail. Freespace 2 has the advantage of being a simple world with no "world polygons" whatsoever (just some skyboxes and perhaps some asteroids), where one could focus on modelling two or ten ships, a new gameplay and some cool new missions quite easily. Star Citizen ups the ante and rises expectations. I can imagine how it is now possible to create a new Freespace title using this engine, but that would mean modelling the insides of big and small ships to a detail never before seen. That would require a complete full time development team fully monetized and with a ****ton of resources to pull that off.

How it is.... I can't really see it. What is your general idea, Matth?