[Al-Rik]

Do you know, the conspiracy theorist in me just has to believe the CIA has something to do with this. The timing of this entire affair, at these particular locales in the world, just seems... disturbingly placed.

Well, it fits the other CIA conspiracy's.
For example the mysterious disappearance of some of my left socks in the washing machine...

But the Agencies plan seems to be perfect:
1.) Fake a video* and upset the Muslims in Egypt and Libya, killing US Personal
2.) ???
3.) Profit !

* I don't understand they the aren't able to create at least a good video.
They faked the videos of the moon landing, in much better quality - remember, they control Hollywood and all the good actors, screen writers and directors, so creating a better video shouldn't have been a problem 

[Thaeris]

Except, you know, there is a lot of supporting evidence to proove they did in fact land on the moon, and the reasons for you not seeing stars is also fully accounted for. There's also recent satellite imagery of the landing sites:



NGTM-1R has a better grasp on the matter of the film than I do, but it is still an ironically placed incident, to say the least.

[Blue Lion]

http://www.youcaring.com/fundraiser_details?fundraiser_id=9332&url=benefitforseansmithsfamily

Fundraiser for the family is up.

[Nuke]

Except, you know, there is a lot of supporting evidence to proove they did in fact land on the moon, and the reasons for you not seeing stars is also fully accounted for. There's also recent satellite imagery of the landing sites:



NGTM-1R has a better grasp on the matter of the film than I do, but it is still an ironically placed incident, to say the least.

theres nothing fake about the moon landing. whats fake is the earth. see we really live on the moon. the moon we see is just a big mirror orbiting us. this mirror was put up by the u.s. government a thousand years ago (the usa was actually colonized way back in 1200 bc and "the brittish" are just a myth). the apollo program was really just a routine maintenance mission to the asteroid to clean and re-align the mirrors, and all the photos from the landing were taken on the non-reflective side of the mirror which has accumulated considerable space dust, which must be removed. the reason for the moon mission being public was because the flying saucer they once used for the routine maintenance broke down and no one knew how to fix it. so they staged ww2 as an excuse to push technology to the point where we could build rockets to do the routine maintenance. unfortunately rockets were kind of big noisy and expensive so it would be impossible to hide the fact that we were doing maintenance on a huge reflector. so the cold war was also staged so that it would look like the space race was just an international penis measuring contest rather than just going "for the hell of it". to justify the use of the new technology generated by the fake ww2.

[Mongoose]

Except, you know, there is a lot of supporting evidence to proove they did in fact land on the moon, and the reasons for you not seeing stars is also fully accounted for. There's also recent satellite imagery of the landing sites:

I think you missed that little winking smiley at the end there.

[JCDNWarrior]

Condolences to the family of Mr. Vile Rat, it's sad to see anyone die too early for no good reason.

It would be ironic but not impossible if the people that rebelled against Gaddafi are the ones responsible for the embassy attack because this happened in Benghazi, the city that hosted the rebellion which spread from there. If so, its a case of blowback, unintended consequences.
Besides, if you help a more radical people to get into power by removing stabilizing elements of a region, don't expect them to become gentlemanly and kind even if you've supported and put or allowed them to get into power.
Just like how Saddam was a US ally, used against Iran and then went on committing atrocities, or the mujahedeen (sp?) trained to fight the Russians that have been fighting NATO and the US in Afghanistan. Libya itself is in a civil war since NATO's humanitarian intervention, the stabilizing element (Not necessarily a good government but kept everyone in check) in that region has been removed causing a power vacuum and chaos between the many large tribes that call(ed) Libya their home.

I don't expect anything to improve by use of force in such a manner. It only leads to perpetual, useless wars, having to constantly invade the same countries over and over again until no one's left to rebel or until you're thoroughly bankrupt and weakened from the expenses and losses of constant war that you can't defend yourself, let alone people thousands of miles away.

[Grizzly]

Link in dutch, use translator of your choice.

Quite simply: all over the world, 10,000 people are protesting against the movie. 10,000. Out of 1,6 billion muslims.
That's a bit undramatic isn't it?

[BloodEagle]

NGTM-1R has a better grasp on the matter of the film than I do, but it is still an ironically placed incident, to say the least.

Wait. What? 

[Thaeris]

It was a comment on potential political tools, especially considering the upcoming elections.

More interesting twists:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/17/christopher-stevens-death_n_1890322.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Chp-laptop%7Cdl13%7Csec1_lnk1%26pLid%3D206623

[Thaeris]

Do you know, the conspiracy theorist in me just has to believe the CIA has something to do with this. The timing of this entire affair, at these particular locales in the world, just seems... disturbingly placed.

Hey I have bad news.

The trailer was up for over two months before anyone created an issue over it. If you want to look for conspiracy theories under the bed, start in Africa.

OH SNAP!!!

Certainly, one cannot simply blame the CIA without more evidence, but this lends the possibility for such being a much greater probability.

[General Battuta]

no it doesn't, dude. he did drug time and anybody involved in a drug case is going to be pressured to cooperate with federal authorities (who won't be the cia)

read the article before you post about it

[General Battuta]

all americans should be forced to watch the wire so they can understand these things/endorse the wire as a great piece of literature

[Thaeris]

no it doesn't, dude. he did drug time and anybody involved in a drug case is going to be pressured to cooperate with federal authorities (who won't be the cia)

read the article before you post about it

I did read the article, and it is fair to say that I've jumped the fence on this matter. However, I fail to see how the blame on the film, and the entirety of the surrounding events, are not related to objective political ploys within the region. It may ultimately be the case that Mr. Nakoula is simply a derranged man. But then, if you observe the underwear and shoe bombers of recent years, those were rather incapacitated or limited individuals - due to such limitations, suspicions or evidence that they were indeed in collusion (however unwittingly) with Federal agents is not unfounded. Nakoula's position... does allow for one to speculate on motives and outcomes. He is certainly not limited in the same sense the bombers were, as he does not seemingly posess a mental limitation as they did. But then, he is a felon; is there the potential he had something to gain in producing this work?

The response to the embassy attacks and protests (all of which were in short succession), namely the same tired rhetoric in a similar vein to that of the Bush years, feels much too much like a means of validating ongoing intervention in the region. If nothing else, the film is a great excuse to explain the motive of the attacks, and it will in fact be accepted as one (which is a solid means of garnering credibility with respect to political aims).

I do not think it unfounded to hold this in suspicion.

[stinkyFeet]

I was somewhat impressed by Obama's speech on the matter.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/25/obama-un-general-assembly-transcript

It was kind of long so here are some parts I liked:
"In other words, true democracy – real freedom – is hard work. Those in power have to resist the temptation to crack down on dissent. In hard economic times, countries may be tempted to rally the people around perceived enemies, at home and abroad, rather than focusing on the painstaking work of reform."

"I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity. It is an insult not only to Muslims, but to America as well -"

"That brand of politics – one that pits East against West; South against North; Muslim against Christian, Hindu, and Jew – cannot deliver the promise of freedom. To the youth, it offers only false hope."

"I accept that people are going to call me awful things every day, and I will always defend their right to do so. Americans have fought and died around the globe to protect the right of all people to express their views – even views that we disagree with."

[NGTM-1R]

I do not think it unfounded to hold this in suspicion.

Except for the lack of a foundation, i.e. evidence.

I mean, all you've really said is "speculate" "think" "potential" etc. That's not foundation, that's paranoia.