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Offline Hades

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Re: 2013 HLP Modding Contest. Cash Prizes!
But I don't think we need to split hairs here over it, especially since I suspect you won't be directly entering. (If it came up from someone who wanted to do it... or if you are entering, then we might go deeper. However, as of this discussion it's entirely theoretical. :) )
I was thinking of entering as a judge, but thank you for throwing me away as an old sock so soon :p

I am just trying to raise the hard questions before they become a problem.
Asking if three ships that were meant to be of FreeSpace Terran origin are alright in a competition about... FreeSpace-intended ships was silly and not a "hard question", though asking about other scifi universes wasn't as much.

I'd recommend against going this way, since i believe that the spirit of the contest would be "do new, canon FS2 style ships". And if you let in the UEF for terrans, you just axed that particular idea, since the general style of FS2 Terrans gets utterly diluted.


as a side note, i'm thinking should i go judging or should i go making -.-
I'm not sure I can agree with this. In general, the canonical Terran style isn't really consistent with itself, there's quite a lot of variation in it already, even in the same era. The Poseidon is very unlike the Chronos, and both of those are quite different to the Triton. FreeSpace 2's biggest consistency in style was the gigantic Jay Leno chin engine replicas on most of its capital ships.

Either way, it's likely the judges can judge based on their opinions on how a FreeSpace Terran, Vasudan, or Shivan ship can look, however biased their opinion may be.
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Re: 2013 HLP Modding Contest. Cash Prizes!
Asking if three ships that were meant to be of FreeSpace Terran origin are alright in a competition about... FreeSpace-intended ships was silly and not a "hard question",
The "Freespace-intended" part was not clearly stated until I explicitely pointed it out. It just said "for use by modders" or something.

As for the other universes, remember how the Karuna never hid its B5 inspirations, or the Custos and Nexus, or the Blizzard and the Starfury, or Aesaar's ships and Hiigarans... We have "Terran" ships with inspiration from other universes all over the place.
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Re: 2013 HLP Modding Contest. Cash Prizes!
guys can we calm down.

  • a ship's Terrenness will be decided by the judges,
  • talking about pre existing designs is pointless as they cant be entered anyway
  • the rules state if you are unsure about something pm Black Wolf, I am sure if enough questions are raised on something the rules will be amended anyway
  • inspiration from franchise "x" is not a problem but as stated might reduce the available marks as it is not 100% original
  • the purpose of this competition is to inject new community wide resources into the pool
  • who cares who wins, its a small cash incentive not the lottery jackpot, enter, enjoy the competition and relax, if you get disqualified its no biggie you still contributed to the community


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Ships must be functional in FSO with the latest mediaVPs installed, and include at least a LoD0 model (pof), a diffuse map (if not utilizing existing tile maps) and a table file. Points will be deducted for bugs, and added for completeness (e.g. debris, LoDs, normal maps etc.) Ships which cannot be made to work in FSO will be disqualified.
This should probably refer to a particular FSO version.

 

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Holy shebang, I am so getting in on this.
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I suspect "ship" means also a whole complex, like a city?
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Re: 2013 HLP Modding Contest. Cash Prizes!
good question, installations count so I dont see why not
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Alright think I'll join in on this as well. c:
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already dusted of a design I started beginning of the month and then lost interest in lol.

I am probably going to get my ass kicked but all the same this should be good!
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Offline Luis Dias

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Re: 2013 HLP Modding Contest. Cash Prizes!
Thinking about starting an Intrade bet on who's gonna win.

 
Re: 2013 HLP Modding Contest. Cash Prizes!
Awesome! I'd enter for judge, if only I was certain I had the time...

  • no individual may win more than one major prize (i.e. the "Best Overall Model" and "Best Terran, Vasudan, Shivan model").
So do I understand it correctly that the Best Terran, Vasudan and Shivan Model will not be eligible for Best Overall Model? In that case, calling the prize 'best overall' seems a bit odd. Or is it the other way around, and does Best Overall go between the three category winners?

 

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"Here's an idea to encourage people to make really good ships for Freespace!"

"Here's all the problems with your idea!"

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Offline MatthTheGeek

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"Here's a contest with money involved"

"Here are some potential issues you'd like to think about before people get all angry at the money they won't get because of vague rules"
FTFY
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Offline mjn.mixael

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Well... I've really only seen non-modellers insistently complaining. If someone who is actively modeling something raises concerns... They will be dealt with.

I understand you are trying to help... But all the complaining about this and that is making the whole contest seem like a typical HLP downer... How about we let the people who want to enter as-is do so and enjoy it?
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Re: 2013 HLP Modding Contest. Cash Prizes!
Well... I've really only seen non-modellers insistently complaining. If someone who is actively modeling something raises concerns... They will be dealt with.

I understand you are trying to help... But all the complaining about this and that is making the whole contest seem like a typical HLP downer... How about we let the people who want to enter as-is do so and enjoy it?
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I'm really not seeing all the downer you are seeing here. Mostly enthusiasm and some doubts about details, except perhaps for Fury's ill-conceived reasoning which wasn't even logical to begin with (how can this be conceived as a "motivational push" for FSU if it deliberately excludes upgrades to original assets?!?!?).

 

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if you read MatthTheGeek's posts there is very little to actually support the comp and lots of fault finding which I must admit I find hard to reason that they are any problem at all
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Offline MatthTheGeek

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Ok guys, stop ****ing around and listen.

I think this contest is a genuinely great idea. This goes without saying, and I shouldn't even have to point that obvious fact.

However, having money involved in it is something the community is not used to and perhaps not prepared to, and a potential source of unnecessary drama.

What I was trying to do right here is pointing all the potential concerns as they occur to me when reading the rules, so the organizers (I don't know if BW is alone leading the show or what) can give answers to them sooner rather than later, and make the whole process more painless for all parties involved.

Now, if you'd rather **** on the face of people trying to help, go ahead. Or maybe you should start a ****-flinging contest instead.
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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 

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Re: 2013 HLP Modding Contest. Cash Prizes!
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