[Eishtmo]

I'm going to say the Herc as well.  The Apollo had the numbers and SOME versatility, but it's overall firepower was limited by lack of compatibility and it couldn't take nearly as many hits as a Herc could.  The Apollo certainly prevented the war from being LOST, but to win, the Herc was much more vital.

[headdie]

The Apollo held the GTA together for the war but the Herc won it in terms of fighters.
in Bombers the ursa dealt the deathblow but the Medusa did the heavy lifting

[ShivanSpS]

The Ursa where deployed in small numbers and im sure it where reserved to special ops and/or veteran units.

About the Apollo, im sure there where a giant number of them remaining from the war and assigned to rookie pilots, same for the Athena.
The Medusa, Herc and Valkyrie where probably present since the last year of Vasudan war, just assigned to veterans as production picked up, i think the Ully came too late to do a great impact on the war, the Ursa came in time to destroy the Lucifer (it can be done with medusas btw), but other than that it does not have the numbers.

Apollo and Athena where the bulk of the GTA, thats for sure, followed by the Valkyrie, Medusa and Herc.

There is not much info on what the GTA did with the Athena units, but the Athena is better than the Herc in a few ways, and its the best ship for anti-bomber, anti-cruiser duty. Ill whould have re-classified it as a heavy fighter.

For the PVE the thing is, we dont have much information of the Great War on the Vasudan side other that they where getting their ass kicked by the HOL, with it does not make sence to me, and the Vasudans where primary dependant on fighters/bombers.

[Deepstar]

PVF Anubis 

Because they existed in uncountable Numbers and they were simply able to overwhelm the Terran and Shivan fleet with kamikaze attacks. 

I think the Vasudans had should used waves of Anubi to crash into Lucys fighterbay over Vasuda Prime, maybe they were able to stop at least all these scorpions.

[Arpit]

I think the Vasudans had should used waves of Anubi to crash into Lucys fighterbay over Vasuda Prime, maybe they were able to stop at least all these scorpions.

Well that explains why 4 billion innocent vasudans lost their lives in the attack.

[Mobius]

How do you know it would have worked?

[Droid803]

Whatever Alpha One was flying most of the time.

[Drogoth]

I vote apollo just because it's my hands down favorite fighter. I was sad it wasn't continued or given a mk2 in FS2. Armament wise it couldn't mount the banshee, but the Prometheus packed a punch, and I've always favored the interceptor as my missile of choice. Apollo suited those needs.

Aesthetically it was also my favorite fighter. I always regarded the Uly as just ugly. 

[CT27]

I vote apollo just because it's my hands down favorite fighter. I was sad it wasn't continued or given a mk2 in FS2. Armament wise it couldn't mount the banshee, but the Prometheus packed a punch, and I've always favored the interceptor as my missile of choice. Apollo suited those needs.

Aesthetically it was also my favorite fighter. I always regarded the Uly as just ugly.

What's your opinion on the Hercules?

[MatthTheGeek]

I vote apollo just because it's my hands down favorite fighter. I was sad it wasn't continued or given a mk2 in FS2.

It was. It's called the Perseus.

Have you even tried comparing the Apollo and Perseus tables. Half is literally copy-pasta. Most notably burners and weaponry. And what isn't copy-pasta is improvement upon Apollo stats (most notably shields, health and energy).

[Revan227]

Apollo, most definetly!


btw, was the apollo the ship in the fs 1 intro?

[niffiwan]

Certainly was

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Apollo

[infernal-dragon]

Am I the only one who caught that the story was trying to portray the Apollo as a giant space box, a death trap for the pilot?  I kinda hearken it to the Myrmidon in freespace 2.  Yeah it does has medium plating, but the target is so friggen huge and easy to hit that its actually more fragile than a valkyrie/perseus.

First of all, most of the time you are flying it, it is before you obtain shields and shield piercing weapons.  This creates the stigma of a low tech, outdated fighter very quickly since by the time you do get shields, you have access to the Valkyrie and other, more advanced fighters (iirc, been a while since i played fs1).  Also, unlike the Myrmidon in FS2, the Apollo doesn't even have 6 weapons and its speed is even more pathetic.

I remember in FS1 I flew the Valkyrie every chance I got.  It's the fastest ship, and good in a dogfight.

[NeonShivan]

Am I the only one who caught that the story was trying to portray the Apollo as a giant space box, a death trap for the pilot?  I kinda hearken it to the Myrmidon in freespace 2.  Yeah it does has medium plating, but the target is so friggen huge and easy to hit that its actually more fragile than a valkyrie/perseus.

First of all, most of the time you are flying it, it is before you obtain shields and shield piercing weapons.  This creates the stigma of a low tech, outdated fighter very quickly since by the time you do get shields, you have access to the Valkyrie and other, more advanced fighters (iirc, been a while since i played fs1).  Also, unlike the Myrmidon in FS2, the Apollo doesn't even have 6 weapons and its speed is even more pathetic.

I remember in FS1 I flew the Valkyrie every chance I got.  It's the fastest ship, and good in a dogfight.

But it's made out of tissue paper and spit

[Mongoose]

Avoid the shots and you won't get hit, pilot!

[NeonShivan]

Avoid the shots and you won't get hit, pilot!

This is so worth a meme but moderators don't like it when I post pictures so...

...You don't say?!

EDIT: Personally I believe the Hercules actually won the Great War, I mean look at it, 6 gunpoints of absolute death and despair ready to be brought to bear upon its victims.

[Slasher]

Such a sage piece of advice from our wonderfully supportive Command.  I was floored when I read that.  Why didn't I ever think of avoiding the shots?!  I mean, it's like, if you don't get in the way of the shot, you won't get hit!!!  I can't believe I never figured that out bef

[Sololop]

I always thought Command was being a dick with that comment.

On topic, I generally feel the Herc was good, but I preferred the agility of the Valkyrie. I never used the Apollo because I felt it was "old." as a kid that matters lol. As for the Uly, I wasn't the best shot and it's high maneuverability, I missed a lot lol.

[InsaneBaron]

I think it's safe to say that every fighter in the game was a Sine Que Non. Remove any one of them and the Shivans win.

Apollo: The ONLY fighter at the start of the war.

Valkyrie: Your one good dogfighter for missions 4-17. Even after you get the Ulysses it's the best option for anti-bomber escort missions like Last Hope.

Hercules: THE versatility ship, capable of killing Cains, Manticores, and anything in between. If a mission involves a wide variety of targets, you fly a Hercules.

Ulysses: King of dogfighters. Without it, you get a domino effect: No ship that can carry the D-Advanced, no captured dragon, no spy mission, poor intelligence, inneffective resistance at Deneb and no scans of the Lucifer to indicate the 5 reactor weakness.

Athena: Your first bomber, and not a bad one. Without it the Taranis could not have been captured. Remains useful later on too- I use it as late as ST:R mission 13.

Medusa: It might be overshadowed by the Ursa, but if we had had to wait till Black Omega for bombing abilities, the Galatea would have died on La Rota Della Fortuna, the Eva would have caused havok at Deneb... suffice to say we would have lost by the time the Ursa was ready.

Ursa: Simple. No Ursa, no Good Luck.

My personal favorite ships:
Hercules: for complicated missions with a wide target variety
Valkyrie: for escort and anti-bomber action
Ursa: For taking out the big bads

[niffiwan]

Athena: Your first bomber, and not a bad one. Without it the Taranis could not have been captured. Remains useful later on too- I use it as late as ST:R mission 13.

Oh yeah, it's my favourite for both Good Luck & Last Stand