Author Topic: Slight Plot Change?  (Read 2375 times)

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First, I'd like to say that I love the FS2 plot. FS1 had a more epic finale IMO, but overall FS2 was more in depth. But there was always one part that seemed strange to me. After the events of "Straight, No Chaser", the player naturally would be shaken up a bit, with the discovery of a second Sathanas. In the debriefing however, the Vasudan squad leader (do we ever get his name?) says that there are multiple Juggernauts in the nebula. He says this in such a "Oh, by the way..." manner that it doesn't give much weight to the revelation. Also, in "Into the Lion's Den", Snipes refers to the Sathanas that almost hits you as "Sathanas Number 3" instead of number 8 or 13 or something. If he knew about the second Sathanas, shouldn't he also know about the others, even if he and/or command doesn't know the exact number? I think that at some point, the plot was changed and that changing it back would make the whole story that much better.

You have the player and everyone else think that there is only a second Sathanas headed to Capella. That would still initiate the evacuation of the Nebula (and the continuing evacuation of Capella too). Rescuing the Aquitaine in the next mission would still make sense. By the way, in that mission ("Argonautica"), there is an unused debriefing stage applauding you for sighting the (singular) Shivan juggernaut.

When you get to "Into the Lion's Den", the revelation of a THIRD sathanas will be even more shocking, kinda literally. And each new Sathanas sighted will make it even more menacing, making it a very dramatic slow reveal instead of a ho-hum "By the way...". Snipes' comments would make much more sense ("We got to warn the Alliance!"). In the success debriefing, he says that he warned the Alliance that multiple Juggernauts are headed to Capella. That wouldn't make much sense if they already knew that. You could have Xinny and Zero mildly freaking out (why don't they talk in the mission?) to add to the drama. This mission is already pretty epic and I think that a few changes would make it even more epic, along with the entire storyline.

As far as I can see, the only changes needed would be the debrief for "Straight, No Chaser", saying that there is only another Sathanas, and the Command Brief for "Exodus", officially revealing the existence of multiple Juggernauts, since the SOC missions are optional.

As for the Vasudan being so nonchalant, that's due to the translator. It doesn't translate inflection and stuff, so the Vasudan might be mildly freaking out, but it's lost in translation.


Offline Goober5000

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Congratulations!  You found a plot hole!


Offline Luis Dias

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Yeah, how are you gonna change the command brief without the original VO? The Vasudan one is a lot easier, and I agree that is a plot hole.


Offline An4ximandros

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Easy, cut the line: detected multiple juggs. If possible splice it into something like: Detected multiple destroyers heading towards us.

Second one would take work though... (I could try it if someone pointed me to the audio files that mention this...)


Offline Luis Dias

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The Vasudan VO is SM304_DB_01 (I used it in my mashup).

The Command Briefing VO is SM306_CB_01 (and 02,03,04,05). In SM306_CB_02 it starts: "Nine Sathanas Juggernaughts have now entered the Cappella System..."

(so yeah I think that covers it, you just have to change the vasudan VO)