[mjn.mixael]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how can you make a mod use the MediaVPs if it doesn't already? I need to do that for Into the Depths of Hell. Does Knossos have a mod.ini equivalent I need to edit, or is there some other procedure?

It's possible to do this by editing Knossos's configuration files, but you should not do this for ItDoH unless you feel like doing some very extensive debugging.  That mod already has a number of warnings that FSO silently accommodates, and introducing MediaVPs would risk adding additional incompatibilities.  Also, the mod uses retail backgrounds, so you would have to manually create new MVP backgrounds.  Finally, the mod uses several retail-era custom models for which there are no high-poly equivalents, so these would not benefit from the MVPs anyway.

All right. I didn't know the lack of MediaVPs was intentional. Thanks for letting me know.

In general, mods are set to use a specific version of the MediaVPs and Knossos takes care of making sure you have the right version for whatever mod. The MediaVPs makes sure retail missions still work as intended, but cannot make sure every mod ever still works as intended. Some changes made can affect mods so it is highly encouraged that mod authors test their mod and publish updates to Knossos that set the correct MediaVPs version. For this reason, I never recommend to alter a mod to use the newest MediaVPs unless you are willing and able to deal with potential mod errors.

[SL1]

You're welcome.  I hope that didn't come across as too harsh.  It would certainly be nice if ItDoH had MVP support, but it would take a lot of work to get there.  Hats off to anyone stalwart enough to slog through it.

It wasn't too harsh at all. I can live without the fancy graphics if I have to. It doesn't bother me all that much.

In general, mods are set to use a specific version of the MediaVPs and Knossos takes care of making sure you have the right version for whatever mod. The MediaVPs makes sure retail missions still work as intended, but cannot make sure every mod ever still works as intended. Some changes made can affect mods so it is highly encouraged that mod authors test their mod and publish updates to Knossos that set the correct MediaVPs version. For this reason, I never recommend to alter a mod to use the newest MediaVPs unless you are willing and able to deal with potential mod errors.

Good to know. I'll keep that in mind.

One more question: Is there something preventing ItDoH from accepting changes to the HUD or fonts? I assumed it wouldn't be a problem because it's still FSO, even without the new graphics, but when I tried copying the appropriate tables and other files, I didn't see any change in-game. I've done this before for other mods, and it worked, so I'm not sure why it's not working here.

[Goober5000]

One more question: Is there something preventing ItDoH from accepting changes to the HUD or fonts? I assumed it wouldn't be a problem because it's still FSO, even without the new graphics, but when I tried copying the appropriate tables and other files, I didn't see any change in-game. I've done this before for other mods, and it worked, so I'm not sure why it's not working here.

There shouldn't be anything preventing changes.  The most likely reason is that your edits aren't being applied in the way that you expect, possibly because they are in the wrong folder.

[acex]

I dont know if its only me, but I'm trying to download Knossos for mac, the latest one (first-timer) and can't get it. Says error 404, not found, Theres another source to get it? maybe a dropbox/drive link or something like it. Thnx in advance

[chief1983]

There isn't one for 0.14.0 final yet, been having a hard time building with the Mac CI lately.  I plan to try my hand at building it again the next time I'm stuck inside as I was put on furlough last Friday.

[acex]

There isn't one for 0.14.0 final yet, been having a hard time building with the Mac CI lately.  I plan to try my hand at building it again the next time I'm stuck inside as I was put on furlough last Friday.

OK, and how can I get de 0.13.. version? I tried to get it on other places, but nowhere to be found . I need the 0.13 dmg for mac. there's no link

[tomimaki]

https://github.com/ngld/knossos/releases
Latest for mac is 0.14.0 RC 1.

[acex]

https://github.com/ngld/knossos/releases
Latest for mac is 0.14.0 RC 1.

The mac version doesn't seem to be available. thnx...

[acex]

https://github.com/ngld/knossos/releases
Latest for mac is 0.14.0 RC 1.

The mac version doesn't seem to be available. thnx...

ohhh...finally got it...thnx...

https://github.com/ngld/knossos/releases/tag/v0.13.3

[chief1983]

No, he meant 0.14.0 RC1.  It's the dmg file under the assets dropdown.

https://github.com/ngld/knossos/releases/download/v0.14.0-rc.1/Knossos-0.14.0-rc.1.dmg