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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 2/9/15)
Most people who tried to have both "show ship" and an external cockpit reported rather hideous-looking interactions between meshes. It might be possible with a dedicated cockpit and an external model made specifically to work with that cockpit, but I think it might be very hard to pull off.
Alternatively, it might be possible to change how FSO renders cockpit models so that they're always rendered on top of everything else...
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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 2/9/15)
It might be possible with a dedicated cockpit and an external model made specifically to work with that cockpit

Yes, that's the idea. You can detailbox the ship so that parts of it don't show when you're in the cockpit.

 

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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 2/9/15)
Most people who tried to have both "show ship" and an external cockpit reported rather hideous-looking interactions between meshes. It might be possible with a dedicated cockpit and an external model made specifically to work with that cockpit, but I think it might be very hard to pull off.
Alternatively, it might be possible to change how FSO renders cockpit models so that they're always rendered on top of everything else...
I think that would be a better solution to fooling about with detailboxes. Especially since FoTG models were not actually made for a specific cockpit model.

 

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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 5/15/15)
Executor has been crossed off the list as the X-Wing Alliance Upgrade team graciously allowed us to use their model as it'll only be a background piece.

 

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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 5/15/15)
Someone can explain me whats mean EU ships?
I feel like a dumb   :rolleyes:

 

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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 5/15/15)
Expanded Universe.  Basically it means stuff from Star Wars novels/comics/games/whatever that wasn't  in the original films.

 

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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 5/15/15)
Many thanks, i was searching and thinking before ask without any result. Everyday i,m learning new things  ;)

 

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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 12/14/15)
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Abandoned or no work done:
ISD-I

Really? that's a shame, seemed to be going so well:


 

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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 12/14/15)
That might have been before the model was lost in a hard drive crash?
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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 12/14/15)
That might have been before the model was lost in a hard drive crash?

Seriously? That's terrible luck...

 

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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 12/14/15)
At this point, the sanest way to get an ISD-I that would match the ISD-II would be to do it by modifying the latter. Which might happen at some point, but definitely not for the first release.

 

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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 12/14/15)
Brand's belief was that a proper ISD-I would have sufficient enough differences from the ISD-II that the right way to do it would be from scratch.  If attempting to be accurate to the studio model proportions that is.
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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 12/14/15)
Brand's belief was that a proper ISD-I would have sufficient enough differences from the ISD-II that the right way to do it would be from scratch.  If attempting to be accurate to the studio model proportions that is.
I have to agree with Brand. For authenticity's sake, that's the route I would go if it was feasible, but only you guys know that. *crosses fingers* :nervous:
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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 12/14/15)
Of course. But making one from scratch is not a way to get an ISD-I because it's just not going to happen.

 

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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 12/14/15)
Just to add an outside persepective, as someone with a medium amount of exposure into the universe (watched the movies multiple times and played several games), I have no idea what the difference is between them.

 

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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 12/14/15)
Just to add an outside persepective, as someone with a medium amount of exposure into the universe (watched the movies multiple times and played several games), I have no idea what the difference is between them.

My understanding is that the ISD-I/II thing was cooked up by the EU to explain the slight changes in design detail between Episode IV and V. later EU works such as Star Wars Galaxies or The Dark Times comic seemed to combine both ships together, the bridge of the ISDII + the turbo-lasers of the ISDI

 
Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 12/14/15)
Just to add an outside persepective, as someone with a medium amount of exposure into the universe (watched the movies multiple times and played several games), I have no idea what the difference is between them.

My understanding is that the ISD-I/II thing was cooked up by the EU to explain the slight changes in design detail between Episode IV and V. later EU works such as Star Wars Galaxies or The Dark Times comic seemed to combine both ships together, the bridge of the ISDII + the turbo-lasers of the ISDI
X-wing Alliance also features both the ISDI and the ISDII. I don't recall any visual differences in this game at the moment though.
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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 12/14/15)
Those games weren't exactly known for their strict adherence to movie cinematics though.  We have been striving for that, but, if we do need an ISD-I, we may have to make some minor alterations to the II in order to have a usable ship in time.
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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 12/14/15)
Yep.  Unless someone else happens to come along with talent matching what Brand made for us and has a strong desire to make the ISD-I from scratch, it's likely just not going to happen.  More likely is to modify the ISD-II to have something usable, and later on if someone makes a better ISD-I from scratch it can replace it.

 

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Re: Currently needed and WIP ships (Updated 12/14/15)
Does anyone have a rough list of the differences between the two? The only difference I know of off the top of my head is the altered main armament (including the turret in the side "notch" on the ISD-I).  I'm presuming the basic shape must have some differences if the ISD-I needs to be done from scratch to create a faithful representation.

e.g.

ISD-I


ISD-II
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