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Offline Scotty

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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
Do they have much of a story, he asks.

Son, TIE Fighter has one of the finest stories you'll ever play.

And also Thrawn.

The games also have the graphics of an early 90s space sim, giving the original Wing Commander a run for its money (and a slight edge, honestly, on account of having real 3D models for ships you fight.  Complete with .midi music.  Go into it expecting a game released five full years before FS2 in terms of graphics and effects and you won't be disappointed.

 

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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
all i've got to compare it to from that early is D1.  thoughts on how it compares to that?
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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
Flight model is simpler, maps are actually open space.  Cutscenes are all sprites and manipulated sprites.  Think old XCOM for quality.  Energy management is a thing and it's much more about trade offs than FS.  In game graphics are probably pretty similar, with TIE Fighter getting the edge in models.

It's a good game, but you can tell it's from 1994.

 

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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
TIE Fighter has the better engine, better writing, better mission design, better soundtrack... TIE Fighter remains, to this day, the best Star Wars game ever made.
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<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

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<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 

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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
TIE Fighter has the better engine, better writing, better mission design, better soundtrack... TIE Fighter remains, to this day, the best Star Wars game ever made.

It's true.
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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
better than rogue squadron?  :wtf:
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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
better than rogue squadron?  :wtf:

Rogue Squadron is garbage compared to TIE Fighter. If you catch me in the right mood I will gladly declare it to be better than any other space sim ever produced. Even when I'm feeling ungenerous towards it, the only reason I'd rate FS2 higher is because we have the works of Blaise Russel and the Blue Planet duology. It sure as hell beats FS1 or any Wing Commander I've actually played.
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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
As per the old versions of X-Wing and TIE Fighter, the Mac versions were probably the best, and LA thought so as well. These had all the old, awesome, shaded polygon graphics, and were quite a cut above the DOS versions to be honest. The resolution was also a bit higher. They also had the MIDI sounds... I never had Windows growing up, so I never had a shot at playing the upgraded versions from '98. From the screenshots, the textures in TIE Fighter look passable, but the X-Wing textures were definitely a secondary consideration.

If you're curious about the Mac versions, you should look up SheepShaver. I think there's just something about my hardware or settings that won't let me get my old copy of X-Wing to run properly, but I may just have to give it another go at some point. Or, I could try and load it up on the new computer, but no matter. If you do happen to be interested in Mac emulation, send me a PM. Otherwise, do yourself a favor and buy this from GOG!
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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
The Mac version Thaeris is describing sounds like it's related to the '95 DOS CD-ROM Collector's Edition, which GOG sadly does not have, despite it being considered the definitive version of TIE Fighter.
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<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 

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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
These games nearly gave me arthritis back when I was a tween. If only there were mouse sensitivity settings back then. :lol:
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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
Check this video out. XWA upgraded and using Freetrack


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CpZtIzxMck

 
Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
X-Wing running on my pit


 
Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
What steering wheel is that on the left there?

(Also, that setup is beautifull! 0_o - How much money did you sink into that if I may ask?)

 
Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
That is an older Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP which I finally found a driver for Windows 7 64 bit that worked (Logitech said it would never work).

I presume your talking about the custom built items.

The buttons were about $1.50 each. The GP-Wiz40 was about $40 and the BU0836X 12-Bit Joystick Board was about $80 (US).
The momentary rotaries were $7 each and the emergency buttons were $7 each

I custom designed the desk/frame and was made out of MFD board and PVC pipe.
 
The PVC pipe and fittings were dirt cheap. So overall not that much compared to some flight sim frames that run around $500 for just the frame.


For more info see this thread

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=85509.msg1765438#msg1765438

 

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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
Xw:a would be glorious on that. Also do you mechwarrior in that?
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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
I have Hawken but have not tried it on there yet.  I have seen videos of XWA with upgraded graphics and it was ok. Personally still think FS2 Open looks so much better and plays so much smoother.

Right now I am using it for

IL-2 1946 with the HSFX 7 upgrades  (supports extracted gauges to the 19")



IL-2 Cliffs of Dover with the Team Fusion upgrades  (supports extracted gauges to the 19")



DCS:Lockon Flaming Cliffs 3  (supports extracted gauges to the 19")



And of coarse Freespace 2 Open

« Last Edit: October 31, 2014, 09:29:36 am by OverDhill »

 

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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
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I swore to myself that if I ever made a flight sim, it would have a registry start. You would get a message if you tried to get in without registering. If you tried that twice in a row you would get shot and the game would auto quit. :D

Tie was the only one I never played... maybe it's time I fixed that...

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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
Bummer. Got everything, installed everything (X-Wing missions too), but my 3D graphics card (Sapphire Dual-X R9 280) isn't recognized/supported when the mission starts.
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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
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Re: There's only one thing better than old space games on GoG...
Bummer. Got everything, installed everything (X-Wing missions too), but my 3D graphics card (Sapphire Dual-X R9 280) isn't recognized/supported when the mission starts.

On X-Wing? I remember that the Collector's edition I have never recognized a single 3D accelerator card. It always ran fine in Software mode.